WEBVTT 045b1d5a-b8dc-413d-9aa1-1f2fa379a712-0 00:00:02.340 --> 00:00:06.050 Let me just I'm a little bit unfamiliar with teams, so it 045b1d5a-b8dc-413d-9aa1-1f2fa379a712-1 00:00:06.050 --> 00:00:10.208 might just take me a few clicks to get everything right, so just 045b1d5a-b8dc-413d-9aa1-1f2fa379a712-2 00:00:10.208 --> 00:00:11.039 bear with me. 4491e050-8489-4778-a541-79a66696e200-0 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:15.150 Entire screen OK. 2d88b92f-d928-4375-838f-fb27bfe0071c-0 00:00:16.020 --> 00:00:16.900 Then. 504656a0-c443-41db-9ae5-9dff1a9fb81a-0 00:00:18.420 --> 00:00:20.550 To present from the beginning. 9f2cde92-5208-47a4-b2da-0050956d9c9a-0 00:00:23.050 --> 00:00:26.807 Yeah, I just need to swap it. Just bear with me. A second swap 9f2cde92-5208-47a4-b2da-0050956d9c9a-1 00:00:26.807 --> 00:00:30.446 press interview and then you said I need to hide this panel, 9f2cde92-5208-47a4-b2da-0050956d9c9a-2 00:00:30.446 --> 00:00:34.025 right? Does that look OK on your side? You can just see the 9f2cde92-5208-47a4-b2da-0050956d9c9a-3 00:00:34.025 --> 00:00:34.920 regular slides. 7b52289c-90b9-4332-bf02-10163f36bac3-0 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:40.910 Okay, great. Well, thank you for that very kind introduction. Um, 7b52289c-90b9-4332-bf02-10163f36bac3-1 00:00:40.910 --> 00:00:45.089 basically, yeah. I thought when I was invited that I just tried 7b52289c-90b9-4332-bf02-10163f36bac3-2 00:00:45.089 --> 00:00:49.072 to talk to you a little bit about using lived experiences in 7b52289c-90b9-4332-bf02-10163f36bac3-3 00:00:49.072 --> 00:00:53.382 crisis translation research. And when I was kind of linking those 7b52289c-90b9-4332-bf02-10163f36bac3-4 00:00:53.382 --> 00:00:57.627 two topics together, it made me think a little bit about ethical 7b52289c-90b9-4332-bf02-10163f36bac3-5 00:00:57.627 --> 00:01:01.284 considerations, because I've found certain just ethical 7b52289c-90b9-4332-bf02-10163f36bac3-6 00:01:01.284 --> 00:01:05.137 perspectives to be really helpful when I've been trying to 7b52289c-90b9-4332-bf02-10163f36bac3-7 00:01:05.137 --> 00:01:06.770 do research about crises. 97490d28-537f-4096-9a3f-5c6d335b2503-0 00:01:06.870 --> 00:01:10.817 Um, using people's lived experiences and even using my 97490d28-537f-4096-9a3f-5c6d335b2503-1 00:01:10.817 --> 00:01:15.555 own experiences. So as a kind of a a little few, few words before 97490d28-537f-4096-9a3f-5c6d335b2503-2 00:01:15.555 --> 00:01:20.006 we start. I mean, I think the COVID-19 pandemic has certainly 97490d28-537f-4096-9a3f-5c6d335b2503-3 00:01:20.006 --> 00:01:24.384 underlined for all of us how important it is to have kind of 97490d28-537f-4096-9a3f-5c6d335b2503-4 00:01:24.384 --> 00:01:28.763 information and communication when normal life is disrupted. 97490d28-537f-4096-9a3f-5c6d335b2503-5 00:01:28.763 --> 00:01:32.783 And to some extent that's all about what that's what my 97490d28-537f-4096-9a3f-5c6d335b2503-6 00:01:32.783 --> 00:01:37.233 research is, is all about. Um, especially we sort of see that 97490d28-537f-4096-9a3f-5c6d335b2503-7 00:01:37.233 --> 00:01:39.100 when you fail to consider. 5d8533df-c71c-41d5-93d7-ea456fe3336c-0 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:43.077 Languages and cultures. In crisis communication there can 5d8533df-c71c-41d5-93d7-ea456fe3336c-1 00:01:43.077 --> 00:01:47.288 be a lot of negative effects, like people misunderstand risks, 5d8533df-c71c-41d5-93d7-ea456fe3336c-2 00:01:47.288 --> 00:01:48.960 they make poor decisions. 637513cb-ee17-4064-8037-415d046a1d97-0 00:01:49.870 --> 00:01:53.218 They just aren't able to take any action maybe and more 637513cb-ee17-4064-8037-415d046a1d97-1 00:01:53.218 --> 00:01:56.986 importantly than anything else I think they're they're cut off 637513cb-ee17-4064-8037-415d046a1d97-2 00:01:56.986 --> 00:02:00.394 from helping themselves and they're cut off from helping 637513cb-ee17-4064-8037-415d046a1d97-3 00:02:00.394 --> 00:02:04.281 other people. So that's kind of a bit of the background of where 637513cb-ee17-4064-8037-415d046a1d97-4 00:02:04.281 --> 00:02:07.809 I'm coming from. Um, in this talk today I plan to talk for 637513cb-ee17-4064-8037-415d046a1d97-5 00:02:07.809 --> 00:02:11.457 about 30 minutes. But if I'm going over time, please stop me 637513cb-ee17-4064-8037-415d046a1d97-6 00:02:11.457 --> 00:02:14.985 and I'll try and speed up and and and finish to allow some 637513cb-ee17-4064-8037-415d046a1d97-7 00:02:14.985 --> 00:02:18.573 discussion before we end. Um, I thought I'd start with some 637513cb-ee17-4064-8037-415d046a1d97-8 00:02:18.573 --> 00:02:19.530 definitions and. 7182220f-d1c4-4f88-a09c-140ae3c7fd7e-0 00:02:19.810 --> 00:02:24.046 Just because the idea of crisis, crisis, translation, and lived 7182220f-d1c4-4f88-a09c-140ae3c7fd7e-1 00:02:24.046 --> 00:02:28.084 experience aren't necessarily all understood the same way by 7182220f-d1c4-4f88-a09c-140ae3c7fd7e-2 00:02:28.084 --> 00:02:32.320 everybody. So, um, I thought it would be handy to just give you 7182220f-d1c4-4f88-a09c-140ae3c7fd7e-3 00:02:32.320 --> 00:02:36.027 at least my my view on these these concepts. Um, I also 7182220f-d1c4-4f88-a09c-140ae3c7fd7e-4 00:02:36.027 --> 00:02:40.330 thought it would be handy for me to kind of give you a bit of an 7182220f-d1c4-4f88-a09c-140ae3c7fd7e-5 00:02:40.330 --> 00:02:44.302 overview of the general research area of crisis translation 7182220f-d1c4-4f88-a09c-140ae3c7fd7e-6 00:02:44.302 --> 00:02:48.604 before sort of honing in on some of those studies that have used 7182220f-d1c4-4f88-a09c-140ae3c7fd7e-7 00:02:48.604 --> 00:02:49.730 lived experience. 9ecd2a9a-6ac3-4554-89be-c80c545fcab8-0 00:02:49.930 --> 00:02:54.675 And then the the sort of the the end of my talk will be about how 9ecd2a9a-6ac3-4554-89be-c80c545fcab8-1 00:02:54.675 --> 00:02:59.278 ethics has helped me essentially but also to to show maybe ways 9ecd2a9a-6ac3-4554-89be-c80c545fcab8-2 00:02:59.278 --> 00:03:03.664 it could be useful um just as a a sort of a broad tool to to 9ecd2a9a-6ac3-4554-89be-c80c545fcab8-3 00:03:03.664 --> 00:03:07.763 navigate lived experience research. So that's that's the 9ecd2a9a-6ac3-4554-89be-c80c545fcab8-4 00:03:07.763 --> 00:03:12.221 plan. But before I even get on to the main research I thought 9ecd2a9a-6ac3-4554-89be-c80c545fcab8-5 00:03:12.221 --> 00:03:16.967 I'd just very briefly tell you a bit of my story and how I I came 9ecd2a9a-6ac3-4554-89be-c80c545fcab8-6 00:03:16.967 --> 00:03:19.700 to to crisis translation research um. ec2b0987-a6db-40e1-a3f7-829e57575011-0 00:03:19.910 --> 00:03:24.089 I've actually been studying this topic for more than a decade ec2b0987-a6db-40e1-a3f7-829e57575011-1 00:03:24.089 --> 00:03:27.931 now. Um, I don't know if you remember, but back in March ec2b0987-a6db-40e1-a3f7-829e57575011-2 00:03:27.931 --> 00:03:32.042 2011, there was a a massive earthquake in Japan in the North ec2b0987-a6db-40e1-a3f7-829e57575011-3 00:03:32.042 --> 00:03:36.222 East, and this earthquake set off a tsunami that then ends up ec2b0987-a6db-40e1-a3f7-829e57575011-4 00:03:36.222 --> 00:03:40.266 causing a very bad nuclear disaster. And um, I was actually ec2b0987-a6db-40e1-a3f7-829e57575011-5 00:03:40.266 --> 00:03:44.041 living and working in Japan at that time and that whole ec2b0987-a6db-40e1-a3f7-829e57575011-6 00:03:44.041 --> 00:03:46.670 experience really changed my life. Um. 633c7506-44c1-4343-98e5-a1d5e3f150b0-0 00:03:47.570 --> 00:03:51.962 You know, I was in Tokyo, so I wasn't that badly affected. And 633c7506-44c1-4343-98e5-a1d5e3f150b0-1 00:03:51.962 --> 00:03:56.355 I could speak Japanese and I had a good support network in the 633c7506-44c1-4343-98e5-a1d5e3f150b0-2 00:03:56.355 --> 00:04:00.259 country, but I still found it to be, um, a really tough 633c7506-44c1-4343-98e5-a1d5e3f150b0-3 00:04:00.259 --> 00:04:04.442 experience, um, navigating a crisis. When you're in a place 633c7506-44c1-4343-98e5-a1d5e3f150b0-4 00:04:04.442 --> 00:04:08.626 where you don't necessarily feel, um, you have a full grasp 633c7506-44c1-4343-98e5-a1d5e3f150b0-5 00:04:08.626 --> 00:04:12.669 of the the, the kind of dominant language and culture. So 633c7506-44c1-4343-98e5-a1d5e3f150b0-6 00:04:12.669 --> 00:04:16.992 actually what I did was they quit my job, um, and I went back 633c7506-44c1-4343-98e5-a1d5e3f150b0-7 00:04:16.992 --> 00:04:17.689 to Europe. 42e2ae79-4635-4d35-9a69-795f3e550df9-0 00:04:17.870 --> 00:04:22.723 And I did a PhD on the topic of of language, culture and 42e2ae79-4635-4d35-9a69-795f3e550df9-1 00:04:22.723 --> 00:04:27.577 translation. Um, in that earthquake. And so my career in 42e2ae79-4635-4d35-9a69-795f3e550df9-2 00:04:27.577 --> 00:04:32.431 kind of crisis translation research has built on on from 42e2ae79-4635-4d35-9a69-795f3e550df9-3 00:04:32.431 --> 00:04:37.200 there. Um, I did say that I wanted to just briefly talk 42e2ae79-4635-4d35-9a69-795f3e550df9-4 00:04:37.200 --> 00:04:42.054 about some definitions. Um, crisis, emergency, disaster, 42e2ae79-4635-4d35-9a69-795f3e550df9-5 00:04:42.054 --> 00:04:47.163 catastrophe. These things are often used interchangeably by 42e2ae79-4635-4d35-9a69-795f3e550df9-6 00:04:47.163 --> 00:04:47.759 people. f513a9ef-c808-49c1-9617-1f08e023186a-0 00:04:47.850 --> 00:04:52.161 And to be honest, they are often used interchangeably by people f513a9ef-c808-49c1-9617-1f08e023186a-1 00:04:52.161 --> 00:04:56.338 in the field of research or who actually work in these areas. f513a9ef-c808-49c1-9617-1f08e023186a-2 00:04:56.338 --> 00:04:58.360 Um, I think you will, sort of. 43f7a6a0-d2c1-4637-b054-abf97d9a80f1-0 00:04:59.370 --> 00:05:02.823 To some extent see them as synonyms, and they are. But 43f7a6a0-d2c1-4637-b054-abf97d9a80f1-1 00:05:02.823 --> 00:05:06.591 perhaps if you want to really focus on the urgency of of an 43f7a6a0-d2c1-4637-b054-abf97d9a80f1-2 00:05:06.591 --> 00:05:10.107 event, um, you might use emergency. Or if you wanted to 43f7a6a0-d2c1-4637-b054-abf97d9a80f1-3 00:05:10.107 --> 00:05:13.686 focus on the scale or how systems are being overwhelmed, 43f7a6a0-d2c1-4637-b054-abf97d9a80f1-4 00:05:13.686 --> 00:05:16.826 you might prefer to use, for example, disaster or 43f7a6a0-d2c1-4637-b054-abf97d9a80f1-5 00:05:16.826 --> 00:05:20.342 catastrophe. And then in particular if you want to kind 43f7a6a0-d2c1-4637-b054-abf97d9a80f1-6 00:05:20.342 --> 00:05:24.110 of focus on timelines and the sort of the experience of the 43f7a6a0-d2c1-4637-b054-abf97d9a80f1-7 00:05:24.110 --> 00:05:28.129 event across time, crisis can be pretty useful, especially when 43f7a6a0-d2c1-4637-b054-abf97d9a80f1-8 00:05:28.129 --> 00:05:29.949 you're sort of talking about. e080223e-12aa-4405-a2b7-47a0f0acef9e-0 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:35.194 Sequence of events, um, most of the time my colleagues and I, we e080223e-12aa-4405-a2b7-47a0f0acef9e-1 00:05:35.194 --> 00:05:39.951 focus on communication and there was already established uh e080223e-12aa-4405-a2b7-47a0f0acef9e-2 00:05:39.951 --> 00:05:44.233 research area, very well established research area of e080223e-12aa-4405-a2b7-47a0f0acef9e-3 00:05:44.233 --> 00:05:49.229 crisis communication. So that also motivated us to use um kind e080223e-12aa-4405-a2b7-47a0f0acef9e-4 00:05:49.229 --> 00:05:54.066 of crisis as our go to term and it also motivated us to then e080223e-12aa-4405-a2b7-47a0f0acef9e-5 00:05:54.066 --> 00:05:58.269 think about using a crisis translation in our own on e080223e-12aa-4405-a2b7-47a0f0acef9e-6 00:05:58.269 --> 00:06:00.410 research. But to be honest. 81e3a87c-3f5d-4ec4-9dea-0e8142cfc117-0 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:04.674 With you the the use of crisis or the use of crisis translation 81e3a87c-3f5d-4ec4-9dea-0e8142cfc117-1 00:06:04.674 --> 00:06:08.737 is more out of convenience and than anything else. So you may 81e3a87c-3f5d-4ec4-9dea-0e8142cfc117-2 00:06:08.737 --> 00:06:12.997 hear me talk about emergencies, disasters, catastrophes as well, 81e3a87c-3f5d-4ec4-9dea-0e8142cfc117-3 00:06:12.997 --> 00:06:14.570 kind of interchangeably. 020ca8a1-48eb-4540-8eb6-5925ac9430e2-0 00:06:16.280 --> 00:06:20.307 Um, one thing I did also want to just point out in terms of the 020ca8a1-48eb-4540-8eb6-5925ac9430e2-1 00:06:20.307 --> 00:06:24.209 the definitions is that when I say Christ is translation, I'm 020ca8a1-48eb-4540-8eb6-5925ac9430e2-2 00:06:24.209 --> 00:06:27.921 not trying to identify a new type of translation. What I'm 020ca8a1-48eb-4540-8eb6-5925ac9430e2-3 00:06:27.921 --> 00:06:31.697 really just doing is using this as a a catch all term for a 020ca8a1-48eb-4540-8eb6-5925ac9430e2-4 00:06:31.697 --> 00:06:35.347 research area. It's just a useful way for other people to 020ca8a1-48eb-4540-8eb6-5925ac9430e2-5 00:06:35.347 --> 00:06:39.374 find your your research and for people with common interests to 020ca8a1-48eb-4540-8eb6-5925ac9430e2-6 00:06:39.374 --> 00:06:43.213 kind of gather around the topic. What we're talking about is 020ca8a1-48eb-4540-8eb6-5925ac9430e2-7 00:06:43.213 --> 00:06:46.360 still translation. It's not necessarily a unique. c90b5cff-53c3-4e3f-b595-2ffabdc91850-0 00:06:46.710 --> 00:06:51.537 Form and crisis translation is more a term for a research area c90b5cff-53c3-4e3f-b595-2ffabdc91850-1 00:06:51.537 --> 00:06:53.990 than for a new practise as such. 2181b2a4-0002-4c70-999f-e81d12b4510a-0 00:06:56.810 --> 00:07:00.908 And then I chose another slightly tricky topic I guess um 2181b2a4-0002-4c70-999f-e81d12b4510a-1 00:07:00.908 --> 00:07:04.794 in using lived experience because again sometimes some 2181b2a4-0002-4c70-999f-e81d12b4510a-2 00:07:04.794 --> 00:07:09.175 people would argue well isn't all experience for a human just 2181b2a4-0002-4c70-999f-e81d12b4510a-3 00:07:09.175 --> 00:07:13.556 lived experience. I I slightly disagree with that and I think 2181b2a4-0002-4c70-999f-e81d12b4510a-4 00:07:13.556 --> 00:07:17.655 that's an over simplification. I do think that it is a an 2181b2a4-0002-4c70-999f-e81d12b4510a-5 00:07:17.655 --> 00:07:21.894 academic concept and it's a term that we choose to use in a 2181b2a4-0002-4c70-999f-e81d12b4510a-6 00:07:21.894 --> 00:07:26.346 particular way. And on the slide there I've tried to give some 2181b2a4-0002-4c70-999f-e81d12b4510a-7 00:07:26.346 --> 00:07:26.699 idea. 6179516c-8e0d-4aff-a25c-0e22694583db-0 00:07:26.770 --> 00:07:30.062 Of certainly what I think are are the kind of key 6179516c-8e0d-4aff-a25c-0e22694583db-1 00:07:30.062 --> 00:07:33.552 characteristics of lived experience, especially in a 6179516c-8e0d-4aff-a25c-0e22694583db-2 00:07:33.552 --> 00:07:37.833 research perspective. So as you can see there, I think what it's 6179516c-8e0d-4aff-a25c-0e22694583db-3 00:07:37.833 --> 00:07:41.652 all about is it's direct personal involvement rather than 6179516c-8e0d-4aff-a25c-0e22694583db-4 00:07:41.652 --> 00:07:45.603 through experience of other people's representations of the 6179516c-8e0d-4aff-a25c-0e22694583db-5 00:07:45.603 --> 00:07:49.752 world. I do also think that it's fair to say that when we talk 6179516c-8e0d-4aff-a25c-0e22694583db-6 00:07:49.752 --> 00:07:53.637 about lived experience in a research setting, we are often 6179516c-8e0d-4aff-a25c-0e22694583db-7 00:07:53.637 --> 00:07:56.929 using it to relate to a a kind of a social issue. 5a4ec220-3ae4-4837-b52f-fea206a9e0ff-0 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:01.420 Of concern or a set of social issues of concern. And because 5a4ec220-3ae4-4837-b52f-fea206a9e0ff-1 00:08:01.420 --> 00:08:05.985 of that, I kind of consider it, um, relationally, because when 5a4ec220-3ae4-4837-b52f-fea206a9e0ff-2 00:08:05.985 --> 00:08:10.478 you have an experience, a person affects the world as much as 5a4ec220-3ae4-4837-b52f-fea206a9e0ff-3 00:08:10.478 --> 00:08:14.898 they are affected by it. Um. So for that reason, I'd I'd see 5a4ec220-3ae4-4837-b52f-fea206a9e0ff-4 00:08:14.898 --> 00:08:19.608 that as another layer of um, the kind of the the characteristics 5a4ec220-3ae4-4837-b52f-fea206a9e0ff-5 00:08:19.608 --> 00:08:24.319 of what makes lived experience a little bit special as a concept 5a4ec220-3ae4-4837-b52f-fea206a9e0ff-6 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:27.580 and then also what you're doing in a lot of. d072beac-9c37-4e99-a21a-1bbe17748997-0 00:08:27.660 --> 00:08:31.526 This kind of qualitative research is you're trying to d072beac-9c37-4e99-a21a-1bbe17748997-1 00:08:31.526 --> 00:08:36.108 interpret actors own concepts, their categories, their meanings d072beac-9c37-4e99-a21a-1bbe17748997-2 00:08:36.108 --> 00:08:40.547 and I find that lived experience is a a really useful unit of d072beac-9c37-4e99-a21a-1bbe17748997-3 00:08:40.547 --> 00:08:44.914 analysis for for doing some of these things. So just kind of d072beac-9c37-4e99-a21a-1bbe17748997-4 00:08:44.914 --> 00:08:49.282 the the last definitional point that I wanted to to give you d072beac-9c37-4e99-a21a-1bbe17748997-5 00:08:49.282 --> 00:08:53.936 before going on into the kind of the the main body of my talk is d072beac-9c37-4e99-a21a-1bbe17748997-6 00:08:53.936 --> 00:08:55.010 to to say that. 0238c7c5-422e-4301-9161-50a6841cc8bc-0 00:08:55.650 --> 00:09:00.171 File lived experiences, let's say a feature of a lot of crisis 0238c7c5-422e-4301-9161-50a6841cc8bc-1 00:09:00.171 --> 00:09:04.262 translation research. Another feature is the kind of the 0238c7c5-422e-4301-9161-50a6841cc8bc-2 00:09:04.262 --> 00:09:08.568 philosophical background from which many of us are pursuing 0238c7c5-422e-4301-9161-50a6841cc8bc-3 00:09:08.568 --> 00:09:12.946 our our, our projects. So it lived experience fits in nicely 0238c7c5-422e-4301-9161-50a6841cc8bc-4 00:09:12.946 --> 00:09:17.539 with a fairly dominant paradigm in crisis translation, which is 0238c7c5-422e-4301-9161-50a6841cc8bc-5 00:09:17.539 --> 00:09:21.846 the the sociology of disasters. And and I've given you some 0238c7c5-422e-4301-9161-50a6841cc8bc-6 00:09:21.846 --> 00:09:25.650 references there if you're interested in in reading. 9a8a12c9-738b-409b-bfc4-3dc3a20cee9e-0 00:09:25.730 --> 00:09:30.303 More about what the sociology of disasters is, is all about, um, 9a8a12c9-738b-409b-bfc4-3dc3a20cee9e-1 00:09:30.303 --> 00:09:34.454 just to oversimplify quite a lot, I'd say. A basic sort of 9a8a12c9-738b-409b-bfc4-3dc3a20cee9e-2 00:09:34.454 --> 00:09:38.184 belief in the sociology of disaster paradigm is that 9a8a12c9-738b-409b-bfc4-3dc3a20cee9e-3 00:09:38.184 --> 00:09:42.194 there's no such thing as a natural disaster. Um. So when 9a8a12c9-738b-409b-bfc4-3dc3a20cee9e-4 00:09:42.194 --> 00:09:46.697 you're trying to understand the the causes and the consequences 9a8a12c9-738b-409b-bfc4-3dc3a20cee9e-5 00:09:46.697 --> 00:09:50.849 of disasters or crises or emergencies, you have to look at 9a8a12c9-738b-409b-bfc4-3dc3a20cee9e-6 00:09:50.849 --> 00:09:55.000 the social processes and you have to look at the human and 9a8a12c9-738b-409b-bfc4-3dc3a20cee9e-7 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:56.830 organisational behaviours. be2a22e5-83ba-445e-99c0-72ceae50e8c5-0 00:09:56.930 --> 00:10:01.134 That actually turn hazards into disasters. So, like the classic be2a22e5-83ba-445e-99c0-72ceae50e8c5-1 00:10:01.134 --> 00:10:05.272 example that they give is if a massive earthquake strikes, you be2a22e5-83ba-445e-99c0-72ceae50e8c5-2 00:10:05.272 --> 00:10:09.148 know, say in the middle of Alaska, and no humans are hurt, be2a22e5-83ba-445e-99c0-72ceae50e8c5-3 00:10:09.148 --> 00:10:13.024 no structures are destroyed, that's not a disaster. That's be2a22e5-83ba-445e-99c0-72ceae50e8c5-4 00:10:13.024 --> 00:10:16.834 not a crisis. That's just a hazard. And the earthquake at be2a22e5-83ba-445e-99c0-72ceae50e8c5-5 00:10:16.834 --> 00:10:20.447 that point is really just a hazard. And it's only when be2a22e5-83ba-445e-99c0-72ceae50e8c5-6 00:10:20.447 --> 00:10:24.455 hazards and our social systems meet that there's a potential be2a22e5-83ba-445e-99c0-72ceae50e8c5-7 00:10:24.455 --> 00:10:27.280 for things to become a disaster or crisis. 1f0d77d7-7246-43d6-9b74-b0c4005827d9-0 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:31.905 And of those social systems, of course, they all have historic, 1f0d77d7-7246-43d6-9b74-b0c4005827d9-1 00:10:31.905 --> 00:10:36.370 economic, political roots. And so they're kind of the belief is 1f0d77d7-7246-43d6-9b74-b0c4005827d9-2 00:10:36.370 --> 00:10:40.974 that, um, you need to understand those, those historic, economic, 1f0d77d7-7246-43d6-9b74-b0c4005827d9-3 00:10:40.974 --> 00:10:45.439 political and other routes, um, to be able to understand what's 1f0d77d7-7246-43d6-9b74-b0c4005827d9-4 00:10:45.439 --> 00:10:50.044 going on in the, the disaster or the crisis. Another kind of, um, 1f0d77d7-7246-43d6-9b74-b0c4005827d9-5 00:10:50.044 --> 00:10:54.021 sort of key idea I would say under this paradigm is that 1f0d77d7-7246-43d6-9b74-b0c4005827d9-6 00:10:54.021 --> 00:10:57.370 crises and disasters can be good opportunities. 349bc4f6-02c8-4214-9c27-bfe3b1206508-0 00:10:57.450 --> 00:11:01.948 To study and certain social phenomena because it's like some 349bc4f6-02c8-4214-9c27-bfe3b1206508-1 00:11:01.948 --> 00:11:06.446 phenomena are seen in sharper focus in a time of crisis than 349bc4f6-02c8-4214-9c27-bfe3b1206508-2 00:11:06.446 --> 00:11:11.018 they are in a non crisis time. So like in our case we sort of 349bc4f6-02c8-4214-9c27-bfe3b1206508-3 00:11:11.018 --> 00:11:15.591 have this view that maybe by looking at translation in a time 349bc4f6-02c8-4214-9c27-bfe3b1206508-4 00:11:15.591 --> 00:11:20.384 of crisis it sort of looking at it in a particularly sharp focus 349bc4f6-02c8-4214-9c27-bfe3b1206508-5 00:11:20.384 --> 00:11:24.661 that can also tell us about translation maybe in times of 349bc4f6-02c8-4214-9c27-bfe3b1206508-6 00:11:24.661 --> 00:11:27.980 non crisis as well. So really all I want to. 055c5eea-2f2a-4b19-89e9-e624278988c2-0 00:11:28.060 --> 00:11:31.814 To do at the start of the talk was just kind of set out my 055c5eea-2f2a-4b19-89e9-e624278988c2-1 00:11:31.814 --> 00:11:35.759 stall and and let you know the the sort of the conceptual and 055c5eea-2f2a-4b19-89e9-e624278988c2-2 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:39.513 philosophical background that a lot of this research is is 055c5eea-2f2a-4b19-89e9-e624278988c2-3 00:11:39.513 --> 00:11:43.268 coming from and just to to wrap it up in a couple of words 055c5eea-2f2a-4b19-89e9-e624278988c2-4 00:11:43.268 --> 00:11:45.749 because I'm I'm conscious of the time. 1fdb1f2f-7ad4-4a8f-913a-9706effbf622-0 00:11:46.540 --> 00:11:49.584 Broadly speaking, the research I'm going to talk to you about 1fdb1f2f-7ad4-4a8f-913a-9706effbf622-1 00:11:49.584 --> 00:11:52.432 is translation and interpreting when normal life has been 1fdb1f2f-7ad4-4a8f-913a-9706effbf622-2 00:11:52.432 --> 00:11:53.660 interrupted or disrupted. d559ba65-34d8-4105-a27d-d6c614af89df-0 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:58.398 We use crisis translation for convenience mainly as a research d559ba65-34d8-4105-a27d-d6c614af89df-1 00:11:58.398 --> 00:12:02.436 area. When you're using lived experience, you're talking about d559ba65-34d8-4105-a27d-d6c614af89df-2 00:12:02.436 --> 00:12:05.898 an individual's direct experience of a crisis, and we d559ba65-34d8-4105-a27d-d6c614af89df-3 00:12:05.898 --> 00:12:09.295 often research that within a broader paradigm of the d559ba65-34d8-4105-a27d-d6c614af89df-4 00:12:09.295 --> 00:12:10.769 sociology of disasters. 145a1860-b713-4786-88f1-e5328aa53c1f-0 00:12:10.830 --> 00:12:14.908 The the introductory remarks and the next section that I had 145a1860-b713-4786-88f1-e5328aa53c1f-1 00:12:14.908 --> 00:12:18.920 planned was just to give you a bit of an overview of of the 145a1860-b713-4786-88f1-e5328aa53c1f-2 00:12:18.920 --> 00:12:22.932 field and who's doing what. And one of the things I suppose 145a1860-b713-4786-88f1-e5328aa53c1f-3 00:12:22.932 --> 00:12:26.877 that's worth mentioning from from the outset is that for a 145a1860-b713-4786-88f1-e5328aa53c1f-4 00:12:26.877 --> 00:12:30.889 long time crisis translation and interpreting uh, we're not 145a1860-b713-4786-88f1-e5328aa53c1f-5 00:12:30.889 --> 00:12:34.967 seeing as anything relevant to crisis. So for a long time it 145a1860-b713-4786-88f1-e5328aa53c1f-6 00:12:34.967 --> 00:12:38.712 went either unrecognised completely or underrecognized, 145a1860-b713-4786-88f1-e5328aa53c1f-7 00:12:38.712 --> 00:12:40.249 but about 20 years ago. a489cdb6-9f06-4388-8ae5-6fc6dd62a40b-0 00:12:41.350 --> 00:12:44.733 Things started to change and people started to see a489cdb6-9f06-4388-8ae5-6fc6dd62a40b-1 00:12:44.733 --> 00:12:48.116 translation interpreting language, culture as more a489cdb6-9f06-4388-8ae5-6fc6dd62a40b-2 00:12:48.116 --> 00:12:52.229 interesting and influential. Um, objects of study, um, in the a489cdb6-9f06-4388-8ae5-6fc6dd62a40b-3 00:12:52.229 --> 00:12:56.077 kind of crisis. Uh, research space. The research that I'm a489cdb6-9f06-4388-8ae5-6fc6dd62a40b-4 00:12:56.077 --> 00:12:59.991 going to introduce to you and the research that is done is a489cdb6-9f06-4388-8ae5-6fc6dd62a40b-5 00:12:59.991 --> 00:13:03.838 very interdisciplinary. So many people will be looking at a489cdb6-9f06-4388-8ae5-6fc6dd62a40b-6 00:13:03.838 --> 00:13:07.222 translation and interpreting from our fields, like a489cdb6-9f06-4388-8ae5-6fc6dd62a40b-7 00:13:07.222 --> 00:13:10.472 translation studies or interpreting studies, but a489cdb6-9f06-4388-8ae5-6fc6dd62a40b-8 00:13:10.472 --> 00:13:13.060 they'll also be people in social work. 3ef5db23-6d55-4859-9584-5a64d0529e17-0 00:13:13.210 --> 00:13:16.620 Communication, linguistics and technology. caa30195-515b-41b9-9d2c-f6f90c65ed10-0 00:13:17.310 --> 00:13:21.663 Politics, a lot of different backgrounds and who actually are caa30195-515b-41b9-9d2c-f6f90c65ed10-1 00:13:21.663 --> 00:13:25.594 interested in translation and interpreting in in crisis caa30195-515b-41b9-9d2c-f6f90c65ed10-2 00:13:25.594 --> 00:13:29.737 settings. Um, obviously I can't talk about all of the work caa30195-515b-41b9-9d2c-f6f90c65ed10-3 00:13:29.737 --> 00:13:34.090 that's being done, um, in the space. So what I thought I'd do caa30195-515b-41b9-9d2c-f6f90c65ed10-4 00:13:34.090 --> 00:13:38.162 is sort of just pinpoint a few kind of clusters that have caa30195-515b-41b9-9d2c-f6f90c65ed10-5 00:13:38.162 --> 00:13:42.375 formed over the past, you know, 20 years or so and um, just caa30195-515b-41b9-9d2c-f6f90c65ed10-6 00:13:42.375 --> 00:13:46.798 there's another kind of caveat again. Yeah, while I am talking caa30195-515b-41b9-9d2c-f6f90c65ed10-7 00:13:46.798 --> 00:13:47.220 about. f54e69a4-fd7d-4ad4-81eb-07dfbe7f5bc8-0 00:13:47.290 --> 00:13:51.123 Racist translation. Not all of the scholars that I'm mentioning f54e69a4-fd7d-4ad4-81eb-07dfbe7f5bc8-1 00:13:51.123 --> 00:13:54.418 would necessarily see themselves as scholars of crisis f54e69a4-fd7d-4ad4-81eb-07dfbe7f5bc8-2 00:13:54.418 --> 00:13:58.012 translation. It's really just a catch all term for research f54e69a4-fd7d-4ad4-81eb-07dfbe7f5bc8-3 00:13:58.012 --> 00:14:01.066 area. But they are all interested in investigating f54e69a4-fd7d-4ad4-81eb-07dfbe7f5bc8-4 00:14:01.066 --> 00:14:04.780 multilingual communication and multicultural communication in f54e69a4-fd7d-4ad4-81eb-07dfbe7f5bc8-5 00:14:04.780 --> 00:14:05.200 crises. 218503a6-0a7d-4b81-b8f0-ecb639be1b82-0 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:10.470 So here's a bit of a, A kind of an overview of of of 20 years 218503a6-0a7d-4b81-b8f0-ecb639be1b82-1 00:14:10.470 --> 00:14:14.249 work. Um, many people would point out that colleagues in 218503a6-0a7d-4b81-b8f0-ecb639be1b82-2 00:14:14.249 --> 00:14:17.498 Turkey carried out really pioneering work on the 218503a6-0a7d-4b81-b8f0-ecb639be1b82-3 00:14:17.498 --> 00:14:21.144 experiences, needs and and training of interpreters in 218503a6-0a7d-4b81-b8f0-ecb639be1b82-4 00:14:21.144 --> 00:14:25.122 disasters. Um, this was, you know, back in, in, in the kind 218503a6-0a7d-4b81-b8f0-ecb639be1b82-5 00:14:25.122 --> 00:14:29.233 of the, the turn of the at the turn of the century. Um, a lot 218503a6-0a7d-4b81-b8f0-ecb639be1b82-6 00:14:29.233 --> 00:14:32.813 of this early work was about interpreters rather than 218503a6-0a7d-4b81-b8f0-ecb639be1b82-7 00:14:32.813 --> 00:14:36.990 translators and a lot of it was initially focused on conflict. 8b9b7b0d-36c6-42c6-a24e-d36d52f11051-0 00:14:37.060 --> 00:14:41.335 Owns military operations, refugee experiences. Um, what 8b9b7b0d-36c6-42c6-a24e-d36d52f11051-1 00:14:41.335 --> 00:14:46.222 then changed was, as time went by, um, these colleagues who had 8b9b7b0d-36c6-42c6-a24e-d36d52f11051-2 00:14:46.222 --> 00:14:51.032 been working on interpreting and using really interesting work 8b9b7b0d-36c6-42c6-a24e-d36d52f11051-3 00:14:51.032 --> 00:14:55.308 about kind of ethics and training inspired other people 8b9b7b0d-36c6-42c6-a24e-d36d52f11051-4 00:14:55.308 --> 00:14:59.355 to then look at other experiences of of language and 8b9b7b0d-36c6-42c6-a24e-d36d52f11051-5 00:14:59.355 --> 00:15:03.936 culture in crisis settings. And another big kind of turning 8b9b7b0d-36c6-42c6-a24e-d36d52f11051-6 00:15:03.936 --> 00:15:07.219 point would have been research around the. 3ac1265b-d447-44e6-bbc1-bec4bb94d9dd-0 00:15:07.350 --> 00:15:11.902 The massive earthquake in Haiti in 2010 and then there were some 3ac1265b-d447-44e6-bbc1-bec4bb94d9dd-1 00:15:11.902 --> 00:15:16.385 successive earthquakes in Japan and New Zealand around 2010 and 3ac1265b-d447-44e6-bbc1-bec4bb94d9dd-2 00:15:16.385 --> 00:15:20.378 2011. What really sort of changed there was those people 3ac1265b-d447-44e6-bbc1-bec4bb94d9dd-3 00:15:20.378 --> 00:15:24.581 started working on written translation and more as well. So 3ac1265b-d447-44e6-bbc1-bec4bb94d9dd-4 00:15:24.581 --> 00:15:28.503 like initially it was quite interpreter focus, but then 3ac1265b-d447-44e6-bbc1-bec4bb94d9dd-5 00:15:28.503 --> 00:15:32.356 translation from the the the more the written word and 3ac1265b-d447-44e6-bbc1-bec4bb94d9dd-6 00:15:32.356 --> 00:15:36.418 started to be studied and also in addition to kind of the 3ac1265b-d447-44e6-bbc1-bec4bb94d9dd-7 00:15:36.418 --> 00:15:38.100 ethics and the training. f40ee945-9057-4e1b-a057-65ed7b03ab0b-0 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:42.582 Had been started by by the colleagues in interpreting other f40ee945-9057-4e1b-a057-65ed7b03ab0b-1 00:15:42.582 --> 00:15:46.454 areas of interest like technology or volunteering or f40ee945-9057-4e1b-a057-65ed7b03ab0b-2 00:15:46.454 --> 00:15:50.910 other aspects start to kind of move the field forward again. 820c200e-694e-490e-ab9d-8debb5b115ee-0 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:55.785 Then I would say that kind of the catch all term of crisis 820c200e-694e-490e-ab9d-8debb5b115ee-1 00:15:55.785 --> 00:16:00.127 translation that kind of came about really because of, um, the 820c200e-694e-490e-ab9d-8debb5b115ee-2 00:16:00.127 --> 00:16:04.399 success of an EU funded project that that Helena had actually 820c200e-694e-490e-ab9d-8debb5b115ee-3 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:08.672 mentioned just before we started the international network on 820c200e-694e-490e-ab9d-8debb5b115ee-4 00:16:08.672 --> 00:16:12.875 crisis translation. So this interact was run by my colleague 820c200e-694e-490e-ab9d-8debb5b115ee-5 00:16:12.875 --> 00:16:16.872 here at DCU, Professor Sharon O'Brien. And um, it brought 820c200e-694e-490e-ab9d-8debb5b115ee-6 00:16:16.872 --> 00:16:21.007 together a lot of people from various different disciplines 820c200e-694e-490e-ab9d-8debb5b115ee-7 00:16:21.007 --> 00:16:22.109 for three years. 0897c5c1-1b6b-4ebc-a3f3-67f4f77f2fba-0 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:26.604 To work on the topic of crisis translation. And that ran from 0897c5c1-1b6b-4ebc-a3f3-67f4f77f2fba-1 00:16:26.604 --> 00:16:30.866 2017 to 2020. And as we all know, in 2020 the world changed 0897c5c1-1b6b-4ebc-a3f3-67f4f77f2fba-2 00:16:30.866 --> 00:16:35.413 and, uh, we we had a a worldwide pandemic to just show, um, how 0897c5c1-1b6b-4ebc-a3f3-67f4f77f2fba-3 00:16:35.413 --> 00:16:39.817 the the kind of ideas that we've been developing over the the 0897c5c1-1b6b-4ebc-a3f3-67f4f77f2fba-4 00:16:39.817 --> 00:16:43.866 kind of the preceding decades could be applied. And that 0897c5c1-1b6b-4ebc-a3f3-67f4f77f2fba-5 00:16:43.866 --> 00:16:48.128 actually also inspired some new pockets of scholarship with 0897c5c1-1b6b-4ebc-a3f3-67f4f77f2fba-6 00:16:48.128 --> 00:16:52.320 places like colleagues in Belgium and China and Australia. d2c07a4a-7768-4086-844a-1ec24342d6dd-0 00:16:52.390 --> 00:16:56.678 How really um and contributing to the field as well, especially d2c07a4a-7768-4086-844a-1ec24342d6dd-1 00:16:56.678 --> 00:17:00.967 using the the COVID-19 pandemic as a kind of a a background. So d2c07a4a-7768-4086-844a-1ec24342d6dd-2 00:17:00.967 --> 00:17:04.987 kind of Long story short, it took a while to get going. But d2c07a4a-7768-4086-844a-1ec24342d6dd-3 00:17:04.987 --> 00:17:09.075 in the last sort of 20 years, 10 years, there has been a big d2c07a4a-7768-4086-844a-1ec24342d6dd-4 00:17:09.075 --> 00:17:13.229 uptick in the amount of research done in the sort of research d2c07a4a-7768-4086-844a-1ec24342d6dd-5 00:17:13.229 --> 00:17:17.183 area of crisis translation. And of course as I said at the d2c07a4a-7768-4086-844a-1ec24342d6dd-6 00:17:17.183 --> 00:17:21.337 start, a significant number of the people studying this topic d2c07a4a-7768-4086-844a-1ec24342d6dd-7 00:17:21.337 --> 00:17:22.410 are using lived. 22181042-4722-404a-810b-161fef2c0af0-0 00:17:22.520 --> 00:17:26.984 Experiences as data so I thought I'd try and focus in on on just 22181042-4722-404a-810b-161fef2c0af0-1 00:17:26.984 --> 00:17:31.449 a few. These were to some extent picked at random and but also I 22181042-4722-404a-810b-161fef2c0af0-2 00:17:31.449 --> 00:17:35.571 wanted to kind of highlight certain themes for you as well. 22181042-4722-404a-810b-161fef2c0af0-3 00:17:35.571 --> 00:17:39.761 So this is by number means a comprehensive list. I just have 22181042-4722-404a-810b-161fef2c0af0-4 00:17:39.761 --> 00:17:44.294 quite a purposely chosen certain certain um works to focus on and 22181042-4722-404a-810b-161fef2c0af0-5 00:17:44.294 --> 00:17:48.416 the first one here is by a colleague called J Marlow UM. He 22181042-4722-404a-810b-161fef2c0af0-6 00:17:48.416 --> 00:17:52.400 comes from a social work background and his interest was. d8841d2a-e71f-4d32-b2b4-a4179ab2f70d-0 00:17:52.530 --> 00:17:56.479 In the lived experience of people from refugee backgrounds d8841d2a-e71f-4d32-b2b4-a4179ab2f70d-1 00:17:56.479 --> 00:18:00.294 and he was working in the context of New Zealand and the d8841d2a-e71f-4d32-b2b4-a4179ab2f70d-2 00:18:00.294 --> 00:18:04.110 people who come there as refugees, and his main interest d8841d2a-e71f-4d32-b2b4-a4179ab2f70d-3 00:18:04.110 --> 00:18:07.390 though was to use crisis translation as a way to d8841d2a-e71f-4d32-b2b4-a4179ab2f70d-4 00:18:07.390 --> 00:18:10.870 understand the practise of transnational family and d8841d2a-e71f-4d32-b2b4-a4179ab2f70d-5 00:18:10.870 --> 00:18:15.087 friendship. So that was really what his study was about and in d8841d2a-e71f-4d32-b2b4-a4179ab2f70d-6 00:18:15.087 --> 00:18:18.970 particular he wanted to know how social media, um kind of d8841d2a-e71f-4d32-b2b4-a4179ab2f70d-7 00:18:18.970 --> 00:18:22.249 facilitates transnational family and friendship. 2fb45c20-6ff5-4bdc-ac09-54206ecc86d3-0 00:18:22.990 --> 00:18:26.618 The crisis translation was a good lens for him to to do this 2fb45c20-6ff5-4bdc-ac09-54206ecc86d3-1 00:18:26.618 --> 00:18:30.009 and he conducted lots of interviews with a lot of people 2fb45c20-6ff5-4bdc-ac09-54206ecc86d3-2 00:18:30.009 --> 00:18:33.816 over 12 months. I think it was more than 50 interviews, 400 and 2fb45c20-6ff5-4bdc-ac09-54206ecc86d3-3 00:18:33.816 --> 00:18:37.683 something social media Diaries. I can't remember all the details 2fb45c20-6ff5-4bdc-ac09-54206ecc86d3-4 00:18:37.683 --> 00:18:41.431 but if you have a look at the paper you you'll see what he did 2fb45c20-6ff5-4bdc-ac09-54206ecc86d3-5 00:18:41.431 --> 00:18:45.059 and then he, um, used a grounded theory to analyse his data. 5394d01a-995a-4b92-a91f-2bd946082300-0 00:18:45.910 --> 00:18:50.093 So that's that's one one work, um Fillmore and Federici also 5394d01a-995a-4b92-a91f-2bd946082300-1 00:18:50.093 --> 00:18:54.002 used lived experiences and they were also looking at the 5394d01a-995a-4b92-a91f-2bd946082300-2 00:18:54.002 --> 00:18:57.843 experiences of migrants and their work was focused on a 5394d01a-995a-4b92-a91f-2bd946082300-3 00:18:57.843 --> 00:19:01.889 reception centre for asylum seekers and visa applicants in 5394d01a-995a-4b92-a91f-2bd946082300-4 00:19:01.889 --> 00:19:06.004 the South of Italy. And again they held face to face a semi 5394d01a-995a-4b92-a91f-2bd946082300-5 00:19:06.004 --> 00:19:10.119 structured interviews with a variety of actors in the field 5394d01a-995a-4b92-a91f-2bd946082300-6 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:13.959 and they wanted to know more obviously about um crisis, 5394d01a-995a-4b92-a91f-2bd946082300-7 00:19:13.959 --> 00:19:16.359 translation, crisis, interpreting. 8478aba6-f7cf-4b57-a953-61661ed2739b-0 00:19:16.440 --> 00:19:20.366 Intercultural mediation. But also again they wanted to 8478aba6-f7cf-4b57-a953-61661ed2739b-1 00:19:20.366 --> 00:19:24.792 understand the emotions of the process of reception. So again 8478aba6-f7cf-4b57-a953-61661ed2739b-2 00:19:24.792 --> 00:19:28.290 it was sort of using crisis translational crisis 8478aba6-f7cf-4b57-a953-61661ed2739b-3 00:19:28.290 --> 00:19:32.573 interpreting as a kind of a lens to examine other um social 8478aba6-f7cf-4b57-a953-61661ed2739b-4 00:19:32.573 --> 00:19:36.928 issues. And a large part of their methodology section if you 8478aba6-f7cf-4b57-a953-61661ed2739b-5 00:19:36.928 --> 00:19:41.354 have a chance to look at the paper is actually devoted to the 8478aba6-f7cf-4b57-a953-61661ed2739b-6 00:19:41.354 --> 00:19:45.994 kind of the legal aspects of um doing research in such a setting 8478aba6-f7cf-4b57-a953-61661ed2739b-7 00:19:45.994 --> 00:19:46.279 and. 3faffe17-95de-41e8-a46c-5f3439d733fa-0 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:50.272 Like a like a reception centre. And it shows that, you know, 3faffe17-95de-41e8-a46c-5f3439d733fa-1 00:19:50.272 --> 00:19:53.979 certain lived experiences require, um, certain regulations 3faffe17-95de-41e8-a46c-5f3439d733fa-2 00:19:53.979 --> 00:19:55.110 to to be followed. 92e78bcd-403e-4919-9b60-aef29b5bed24-0 00:19:57.130 --> 00:20:01.981 Then I picked another um work to to kind of introduce you to um 92e78bcd-403e-4919-9b60-aef29b5bed24-1 00:20:01.981 --> 00:20:06.682 here. Um Penguang was taking a slightly different approach to 92e78bcd-403e-4919-9b60-aef29b5bed24-2 00:20:06.682 --> 00:20:11.534 the the first two studies that I mentioned um. In the first two 92e78bcd-403e-4919-9b60-aef29b5bed24-3 00:20:11.534 --> 00:20:16.007 studies, it was a researcher using the lived experience of 92e78bcd-403e-4919-9b60-aef29b5bed24-4 00:20:16.007 --> 00:20:20.707 research participants, but in Pyongyang's um case, it was the 92e78bcd-403e-4919-9b60-aef29b5bed24-5 00:20:20.707 --> 00:20:25.559 researcher using their own lived experiences to examine the the 92e78bcd-403e-4919-9b60-aef29b5bed24-6 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:27.000 kind of the object. a0f964bf-df08-4ad7-8af6-bc781eb75bc8-0 00:20:27.080 --> 00:20:31.665 Enquiry um. So this particular researcher had first hand a0f964bf-df08-4ad7-8af6-bc781eb75bc8-1 00:20:31.665 --> 00:20:36.734 experience as a crisis manager in Wuhan at the outbreak of the a0f964bf-df08-4ad7-8af6-bc781eb75bc8-2 00:20:36.734 --> 00:20:41.481 COVID-19 pandemic and they're kind of goal was really as a a0f964bf-df08-4ad7-8af6-bc781eb75bc8-3 00:20:41.481 --> 00:20:46.066 fundamental level to understand the interface between um a0f964bf-df08-4ad7-8af6-bc781eb75bc8-4 00:20:46.066 --> 00:20:51.055 government translators. Um, you know, kind of professional um a0f964bf-df08-4ad7-8af6-bc781eb75bc8-5 00:20:51.055 --> 00:20:55.962 fully employed translators and external volunteers um in the a0f964bf-df08-4ad7-8af6-bc781eb75bc8-6 00:20:55.962 --> 00:20:57.250 provision of of. f4fdc49e-873c-428b-b81d-52a19761cacd-0 00:20:57.320 --> 00:21:00.937 Language and communication services during a crisis and f4fdc49e-873c-428b-b81d-52a19761cacd-1 00:21:00.937 --> 00:21:05.006 another slight difference with the the two previous studies as f4fdc49e-873c-428b-b81d-52a19761cacd-2 00:21:05.006 --> 00:21:09.076 well was um in this case a lot of the data was more about kind f4fdc49e-873c-428b-b81d-52a19761cacd-3 00:21:09.076 --> 00:21:12.500 of thick descriptions or auto ethnographic accounts. 46536a17-fc49-40db-9fa1-de54f893461f-0 00:21:14.430 --> 00:21:19.708 Then am the Champaran and Chinco reading sorry research here. Um 46536a17-fc49-40db-9fa1-de54f893461f-1 00:21:19.708 --> 00:21:24.824 was also looking at volunteers and this time they were looking 46536a17-fc49-40db-9fa1-de54f893461f-2 00:21:24.824 --> 00:21:28.965 at the context of mass migrations. Um through koi, 46536a17-fc49-40db-9fa1-de54f893461f-3 00:21:28.965 --> 00:21:33.838 through Croatia. Um. They did a a comparative case study, a 46536a17-fc49-40db-9fa1-de54f893461f-4 00:21:33.838 --> 00:21:38.791 first mass migration in 2015 and compared to 2019. And again 46536a17-fc49-40db-9fa1-de54f893461f-5 00:21:38.791 --> 00:21:42.040 their focus was very strongly on using. ae8ce370-3d6b-4b41-8cfb-c3b1366aa2d7-0 00:21:43.570 --> 00:21:47.656 Interviews as they're kind of instrument for understanding and ae8ce370-3d6b-4b41-8cfb-c3b1366aa2d7-1 00:21:47.656 --> 00:21:51.807 more about their their research area. And again their focus was ae8ce370-3d6b-4b41-8cfb-c3b1366aa2d7-2 00:21:51.807 --> 00:21:56.022 on crisis translation, but what they really wanted to understand ae8ce370-3d6b-4b41-8cfb-c3b1366aa2d7-3 00:21:56.022 --> 00:21:59.265 more about was the role of specialised knowledge, ae8ce370-3d6b-4b41-8cfb-c3b1366aa2d7-4 00:21:59.265 --> 00:22:03.546 especially the, the, the medical um, specialised knowledge in the ae8ce370-3d6b-4b41-8cfb-c3b1366aa2d7-5 00:22:03.546 --> 00:22:07.762 translation and interpreting of this particular these particular ae8ce370-3d6b-4b41-8cfb-c3b1366aa2d7-6 00:22:07.762 --> 00:22:08.800 2 crises events. 3523457d-4f0e-43d9-8c49-004614fb6fcc-0 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:16.208 Um, Al Shari's work here is sort of similar in some ways to to 3523457d-4f0e-43d9-8c49-004614fb6fcc-1 00:22:16.208 --> 00:22:20.055 the previous one that I mentioned, um, using Croatia. 3523457d-4f0e-43d9-8c49-004614fb6fcc-2 00:22:20.055 --> 00:22:24.330 This time it was actually though using Yemen and a conflict 3523457d-4f0e-43d9-8c49-004614fb6fcc-3 00:22:24.330 --> 00:22:28.889 setting, so a protracted war as the context of research. Um. So 3523457d-4f0e-43d9-8c49-004614fb6fcc-4 00:22:28.889 --> 00:22:33.093 this time it was again the lived experience of of research 3523457d-4f0e-43d9-8c49-004614fb6fcc-5 00:22:33.093 --> 00:22:36.869 participants rather than the researchers. And um the 3523457d-4f0e-43d9-8c49-004614fb6fcc-6 00:22:36.869 --> 00:22:41.286 interesting part here was some of the challenges of trying to 3523457d-4f0e-43d9-8c49-004614fb6fcc-7 00:22:41.286 --> 00:22:42.070 get access. a0f942c0-f908-430f-aa33-5863f213aadb-0 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:46.457 To essentially have a warzone, um, to do this type of research a0f942c0-f908-430f-aa33-5863f213aadb-1 00:22:46.457 --> 00:22:50.004 and for practical reasons, rather than face to face a0f942c0-f908-430f-aa33-5863f213aadb-2 00:22:50.004 --> 00:22:54.233 interviews, it became obviously interviews done as a distance a0f942c0-f908-430f-aa33-5863f213aadb-3 00:22:54.233 --> 00:22:57.985 using technology. Um again the sort of lens was crisis a0f942c0-f908-430f-aa33-5863f213aadb-4 00:22:57.985 --> 00:23:02.282 translation and what they were trying to understand more about a0f942c0-f908-430f-aa33-5863f213aadb-5 00:23:02.282 --> 00:23:06.512 was the work of humanitarian organisations in this protracted a0f942c0-f908-430f-aa33-5863f213aadb-6 00:23:06.512 --> 00:23:07.740 conflict in Yemen. 4fb3b3e9-1c91-4063-a4af-a3117988b357-0 00:23:09.040 --> 00:23:12.659 And then the the last one, I guess one of the reasons I'm 4fb3b3e9-1c91-4063-a4af-a3117988b357-1 00:23:12.659 --> 00:23:16.590 talking to you or was asked to talk to you is because I myself 4fb3b3e9-1c91-4063-a4af-a3117988b357-2 00:23:16.590 --> 00:23:20.522 have done research using lived experience and so I thought I'd 4fb3b3e9-1c91-4063-a4af-a3117988b357-3 00:23:20.522 --> 00:23:24.516 just mention one of the studies that I've done. Um, I also used 4fb3b3e9-1c91-4063-a4af-a3117988b357-4 00:23:24.516 --> 00:23:28.073 the the case study methods, so similar to say chemco and 4fb3b3e9-1c91-4063-a4af-a3117988b357-5 00:23:28.073 --> 00:23:28.510 chinko. a0a1e405-c408-4f26-92f3-2d962dde4716-0 00:23:29.890 --> 00:23:33.927 So I combined face to face interview data with other a0a1e405-c408-4f26-92f3-2d962dde4716-1 00:23:33.927 --> 00:23:38.879 secondary data like my own auto Western graphic account, UM with a0a1e405-c408-4f26-92f3-2d962dde4716-2 00:23:38.879 --> 00:23:43.374 Grey Literature survey data, digital archives. And again I a0a1e405-c408-4f26-92f3-2d962dde4716-3 00:23:43.374 --> 00:23:47.412 was trying to use crisis translation to to talk more a0a1e405-c408-4f26-92f3-2d962dde4716-4 00:23:47.412 --> 00:23:51.450 about trust and distrust um in a large scale crisis. 7b4009fc-e17f-4c5f-8531-b76cc8ea272b-0 00:23:52.260 --> 00:23:56.869 So those are kind of just a few relatively purposefully picked 7b4009fc-e17f-4c5f-8531-b76cc8ea272b-1 00:23:56.869 --> 00:24:01.332 examples which I thought I'd introduce you to. I also wanted 7b4009fc-e17f-4c5f-8531-b76cc8ea272b-2 00:24:01.332 --> 00:24:05.502 to sort of try to give you some patterns or some kind of 7b4009fc-e17f-4c5f-8531-b76cc8ea272b-3 00:24:05.502 --> 00:24:09.673 takeaway ideas from from the, you know, my reading or my 7b4009fc-e17f-4c5f-8531-b76cc8ea272b-4 00:24:09.673 --> 00:24:14.063 understanding of the crisis translation literature. I think 7b4009fc-e17f-4c5f-8531-b76cc8ea272b-5 00:24:14.063 --> 00:24:18.160 when individuals do use, um, lived experiences in their 7b4009fc-e17f-4c5f-8531-b76cc8ea272b-6 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:22.770 research, you'd see a tendency to link individual experiences. 7d2f5994-22c0-4a75-86e9-a808a4960cf8-0 00:24:22.840 --> 00:24:26.814 To bigger social issues. So that kind of fits in with the 7d2f5994-22c0-4a75-86e9-a808a4960cf8-1 00:24:26.814 --> 00:24:31.131 definition of lived experience that I talked about, um, at the 7d2f5994-22c0-4a75-86e9-a808a4960cf8-2 00:24:31.131 --> 00:24:35.380 beginning, the studies that I mentioned just there, they were 7d2f5994-22c0-4a75-86e9-a808a4960cf8-3 00:24:35.380 --> 00:24:38.943 linking experiences of translation to bigger things 7d2f5994-22c0-4a75-86e9-a808a4960cf8-4 00:24:38.943 --> 00:24:43.192 like migration, health trusts, social justice and so on. So I 7d2f5994-22c0-4a75-86e9-a808a4960cf8-5 00:24:43.192 --> 00:24:47.303 think this can be sometimes useful for people maybe in your 7d2f5994-22c0-4a75-86e9-a808a4960cf8-6 00:24:47.303 --> 00:24:51.004 position who are setting out on projects or currently 7d2f5994-22c0-4a75-86e9-a808a4960cf8-7 00:24:51.004 --> 00:24:53.060 undertaking projects to maybe. b1ab0a03-c47a-411e-bccf-2332f125dbc1-0 00:24:53.130 --> 00:24:56.948 Think a little bit about the phenomena that you're actually b1ab0a03-c47a-411e-bccf-2332f125dbc1-1 00:24:56.948 --> 00:25:00.512 examining. And while many of us are studying absolutely b1ab0a03-c47a-411e-bccf-2332f125dbc1-2 00:25:00.512 --> 00:25:04.076 translation and interpreting, we can also have multiple b1ab0a03-c47a-411e-bccf-2332f125dbc1-3 00:25:04.076 --> 00:25:07.958 objectives maybe. And sometimes what we may be doing is also b1ab0a03-c47a-411e-bccf-2332f125dbc1-4 00:25:07.958 --> 00:25:11.458 using translation and interpreting as a kind of a tool b1ab0a03-c47a-411e-bccf-2332f125dbc1-5 00:25:11.458 --> 00:25:15.149 to know more about other objects of inquiry. So it's just b1ab0a03-c47a-411e-bccf-2332f125dbc1-6 00:25:15.149 --> 00:25:19.222 something that I thought might be interesting for us to discuss b1ab0a03-c47a-411e-bccf-2332f125dbc1-7 00:25:19.222 --> 00:25:23.231 or for you to to consider just trying to understand what it is b1ab0a03-c47a-411e-bccf-2332f125dbc1-8 00:25:23.231 --> 00:25:24.250 you're actually. 785c2ad6-e376-4fde-802e-832f99a46493-0 00:25:24.350 --> 00:25:25.630 I'm inquiring into. a41aa1d7-d456-453e-8d77-14eca7b0ac76-0 00:25:27.520 --> 00:25:31.115 Another sort of noticeable feature, I would say of the a41aa1d7-d456-453e-8d77-14eca7b0ac76-1 00:25:31.115 --> 00:25:34.907 studies that that I know of anyway, in crisis translation a41aa1d7-d456-453e-8d77-14eca7b0ac76-2 00:25:34.907 --> 00:25:38.765 where they've experiences are being used is certainly that a41aa1d7-d456-453e-8d77-14eca7b0ac76-3 00:25:38.765 --> 00:25:42.688 ethnographic. Ethnographic approaches and interviews really a41aa1d7-d456-453e-8d77-14eca7b0ac76-4 00:25:42.688 --> 00:25:46.872 predominate. You'll see lots and lots of research using face to a41aa1d7-d456-453e-8d77-14eca7b0ac76-5 00:25:46.872 --> 00:25:50.468 face or interviews at a distance. Um, but I would sort a41aa1d7-d456-453e-8d77-14eca7b0ac76-6 00:25:50.468 --> 00:25:54.521 of. I I think they're great. I think interviews are fantastic a41aa1d7-d456-453e-8d77-14eca7b0ac76-7 00:25:54.521 --> 00:25:56.809 ways to capture lived experiences. a0a2c7d7-0d5a-4886-b84a-bef7584caa29-0 00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:01.049 Where to understand lived experiences? Um. But I do think a0a2c7d7-0d5a-4886-b84a-bef7584caa29-1 00:26:01.049 --> 00:26:05.793 that there are other options and like I mentioned, sort of things a0a2c7d7-0d5a-4886-b84a-bef7584caa29-2 00:26:05.793 --> 00:26:10.034 like, um, participant Diaries, digital archives, uh, think a0a2c7d7-0d5a-4886-b84a-bef7584caa29-3 00:26:10.034 --> 00:26:14.707 descriptions, um, you know, the especially in the context of the a0a2c7d7-0d5a-4886-b84a-bef7584caa29-4 00:26:14.707 --> 00:26:19.307 digital world taking a a sort of an increasingly important role a0a2c7d7-0d5a-4886-b84a-bef7584caa29-5 00:26:19.307 --> 00:26:23.477 in in our own, in everybody's experiences of contemporary a0a2c7d7-0d5a-4886-b84a-bef7584caa29-6 00:26:23.477 --> 00:26:26.640 life. I do think it's also worth trying to. 981d43f7-2394-4b5f-b8c9-f0156b3283b5-0 00:26:26.890 --> 00:26:30.811 Examine what kind of instruments or what methodologies will help 981d43f7-2394-4b5f-b8c9-f0156b3283b5-1 00:26:30.811 --> 00:26:34.189 us capture those lived experiences in a most meaningful 981d43f7-2394-4b5f-b8c9-f0156b3283b5-2 00:26:34.189 --> 00:26:37.809 way. So again, it's just I'm just trying to think of things 981d43f7-2394-4b5f-b8c9-f0156b3283b5-3 00:26:37.809 --> 00:26:41.007 that maybe you might be interested in, in discussing 981d43f7-2394-4b5f-b8c9-f0156b3283b5-4 00:26:41.007 --> 00:26:41.550 later on. 62874ca1-68a9-43ff-a922-bf3da4614728-0 00:26:42.530 --> 00:26:46.560 And another point is that certainly in the studies that 62874ca1-68a9-43ff-a922-bf3da4614728-1 00:26:46.560 --> 00:26:50.879 I'm aware of it sometimes the the researched people, so the 62874ca1-68a9-43ff-a922-bf3da4614728-2 00:26:50.879 --> 00:26:55.197 participants in the research who who are giving their lived 62874ca1-68a9-43ff-a922-bf3da4614728-3 00:26:55.197 --> 00:26:59.300 experiences. But it does also include the researchers at 62874ca1-68a9-43ff-a922-bf3da4614728-4 00:26:59.300 --> 00:27:03.403 times. And when you include, um, your own experiences as 62874ca1-68a9-43ff-a922-bf3da4614728-5 00:27:03.403 --> 00:27:08.009 researcher, it does add a kind of a layer of, um, positionality 62874ca1-68a9-43ff-a922-bf3da4614728-6 00:27:08.009 --> 00:27:12.399 that needs to be considered and there are certainly certain. c954cefd-abeb-4ce6-a80e-f6b797f34a24-0 00:27:12.820 --> 00:27:17.248 Methods or tools for for dealing with that and working through c954cefd-abeb-4ce6-a80e-f6b797f34a24-1 00:27:17.248 --> 00:27:21.115 your your position as maybe a kind of insider outsider c954cefd-abeb-4ce6-a80e-f6b797f34a24-2 00:27:21.115 --> 00:27:25.052 researcher researched um, another issue that I think is c954cefd-abeb-4ce6-a80e-f6b797f34a24-3 00:27:25.052 --> 00:27:26.810 worth mentioning is that. d239ae1f-1b04-4c8c-a5be-245e31b84e8a-0 00:27:27.550 --> 00:27:31.474 In the crisis translation space, I think a lot of participants d239ae1f-1b04-4c8c-a5be-245e31b84e8a-1 00:27:31.474 --> 00:27:35.399 could be considered vulnerable and that was certainly the case d239ae1f-1b04-4c8c-a5be-245e31b84e8a-2 00:27:35.399 --> 00:27:38.826 in the studies that are highlighted now, vulnerability d239ae1f-1b04-4c8c-a5be-245e31b84e8a-3 00:27:38.826 --> 00:27:42.626 is a a very contested concept and we could have a whole talk d239ae1f-1b04-4c8c-a5be-245e31b84e8a-4 00:27:42.626 --> 00:27:46.738 just on that topic. Um. But I do think that it's worth bearing in d239ae1f-1b04-4c8c-a5be-245e31b84e8a-5 00:27:46.738 --> 00:27:50.726 mind that if you are using like crises or disasters or or these d239ae1f-1b04-4c8c-a5be-245e31b84e8a-6 00:27:50.726 --> 00:27:54.464 kind of settings that you may be working with people who've d239ae1f-1b04-4c8c-a5be-245e31b84e8a-7 00:27:54.464 --> 00:27:58.139 experienced some fairly extreme or abnormal circumstances. bd2def60-8d2b-4a1f-b8e1-bad9b58b05fe-0 00:27:58.230 --> 00:28:01.730 Often with elevated stress, often with elevated difficulty, bd2def60-8d2b-4a1f-b8e1-bad9b58b05fe-1 00:28:01.730 --> 00:28:05.463 and that's something which you might need to to bear in mind in bd2def60-8d2b-4a1f-b8e1-bad9b58b05fe-2 00:28:05.463 --> 00:28:06.280 your research. 4b56a8d9-4311-4bab-80be-259ada9392ee-0 00:28:07.620 --> 00:28:08.450 Um. cf46ece0-1f69-4d68-9876-acad9673e9f1-0 00:28:09.320 --> 00:28:13.013 Sort of, kind of on the same lines. I do think that certain cf46ece0-1f69-4d68-9876-acad9673e9f1-1 00:28:13.013 --> 00:28:16.954 vulnerable groups are a bit over overstudied. I don't mean that cf46ece0-1f69-4d68-9876-acad9673e9f1-2 00:28:16.954 --> 00:28:21.017 it's it's not that we don't need to know more about these people, cf46ece0-1f69-4d68-9876-acad9673e9f1-3 00:28:21.017 --> 00:28:24.649 but I do think that we ask a lot of certain groups. So for cf46ece0-1f69-4d68-9876-acad9673e9f1-4 00:28:24.649 --> 00:28:28.282 example a lot of work is done with refugees or people with cf46ece0-1f69-4d68-9876-acad9673e9f1-5 00:28:28.282 --> 00:28:31.914 refugee like backgrounds. They might find themselves being cf46ece0-1f69-4d68-9876-acad9673e9f1-6 00:28:31.914 --> 00:28:35.731 asked to participate again and again in studies and not being cf46ece0-1f69-4d68-9876-acad9673e9f1-7 00:28:35.731 --> 00:28:39.425 so sure of maybe what's in it for them like what, what kind cf46ece0-1f69-4d68-9876-acad9673e9f1-8 00:28:39.425 --> 00:28:39.609 of. 945937dc-e3c5-4165-984a-71c0e461b30a-0 00:28:39.710 --> 00:28:43.086 Good. This is coming from us. And I'm not saying that's the 945937dc-e3c5-4165-984a-71c0e461b30a-1 00:28:43.086 --> 00:28:46.744 case all the time by any means. It's just something that's often 945937dc-e3c5-4165-984a-71c0e461b30a-2 00:28:46.744 --> 00:28:50.234 at the back of my mind. That's because I work in in crisis. A 945937dc-e3c5-4165-984a-71c0e461b30a-3 00:28:50.234 --> 00:28:53.554 lot I need to think about is, okay, well, who do I kind of 945937dc-e3c5-4165-984a-71c0e461b30a-4 00:28:53.554 --> 00:28:57.156 have the right to ask and what do I have the right to ask them? 945937dc-e3c5-4165-984a-71c0e461b30a-5 00:28:57.156 --> 00:29:00.645 And also, I think we do need to think about the timing of our 945937dc-e3c5-4165-984a-71c0e461b30a-6 00:29:00.645 --> 00:29:04.360 research when we're working with kind of crisis settings. Um, you 945937dc-e3c5-4165-984a-71c0e461b30a-7 00:29:04.360 --> 00:29:07.680 know, crisis timelines don't necessarily just mean sort of 945937dc-e3c5-4165-984a-71c0e461b30a-8 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:10.720 the immediate experience of an outbreak, of a crisis. ad9d5b3d-617d-41e6-af69-9548c9f7a054-0 00:29:10.790 --> 00:29:14.881 There are kind of medium term and long term perspectives that ad9d5b3d-617d-41e6-af69-9548c9f7a054-1 00:29:14.881 --> 00:29:18.708 are also very useful. So maybe thinking about when we ask ad9d5b3d-617d-41e6-af69-9548c9f7a054-2 00:29:18.708 --> 00:29:22.206 people to share their experiences is also important. ad9d5b3d-617d-41e6-af69-9548c9f7a054-3 00:29:22.206 --> 00:29:23.460 So I guess kind of. 8c65f998-acbc-4c64-8c78-e871973f9518-0 00:29:24.110 --> 00:29:27.686 The, the, the matters arising, these, these ideas I was trying 8c65f998-acbc-4c64-8c78-e871973f9518-1 00:29:27.686 --> 00:29:31.263 to to pick out, they're mostly things that I've struggled with 8c65f998-acbc-4c64-8c78-e871973f9518-2 00:29:31.263 --> 00:29:34.442 in my own research or that I know other colleagues have 8c65f998-acbc-4c64-8c78-e871973f9518-3 00:29:34.442 --> 00:29:38.189 struggled with. And the reason I sort of raised them is because I 8c65f998-acbc-4c64-8c78-e871973f9518-4 00:29:38.189 --> 00:29:38.530 think. 10f99039-4b1e-4465-b48f-deba1afc383e-0 00:29:39.460 --> 00:29:42.788 That taking certain ethical perspectives or ethical 10f99039-4b1e-4465-b48f-deba1afc383e-1 00:29:42.788 --> 00:29:46.628 approaches or using certain ethical categories can help you 10f99039-4b1e-4465-b48f-deba1afc383e-2 00:29:46.628 --> 00:29:50.725 at least, um, work through some of the ideas that are raised by 10f99039-4b1e-4465-b48f-deba1afc383e-3 00:29:50.725 --> 00:29:54.694 these kind of questions. And again, I I just thought I'd pick 10f99039-4b1e-4465-b48f-deba1afc383e-4 00:29:54.694 --> 00:29:58.598 out a few. Um, these are by number means an exhaustive lists 10f99039-4b1e-4465-b48f-deba1afc383e-5 00:29:58.598 --> 00:30:02.118 or anything. I thought representation and transparency 10f99039-4b1e-4465-b48f-deba1afc383e-6 00:30:02.118 --> 00:30:06.087 and reciprocity are three kind of constructs that have helped 10f99039-4b1e-4465-b48f-deba1afc383e-7 00:30:06.087 --> 00:30:09.800 me in my work and you know, they might be useful for you. 174775c3-8b34-4abc-8360-2995d6d5c87c-0 00:30:09.870 --> 00:30:14.574 To especially if you're working with lived experiences as data 174775c3-8b34-4abc-8360-2995d6d5c87c-1 00:30:14.574 --> 00:30:19.503 and maybe even if if some of you might end up working with crisis 174775c3-8b34-4abc-8360-2995d6d5c87c-2 00:30:19.503 --> 00:30:24.357 settings. So I in talking about these these issues before I kind 174775c3-8b34-4abc-8360-2995d6d5c87c-3 00:30:24.357 --> 00:30:28.987 of get on to that researcher side, I did just briefly want to 174775c3-8b34-4abc-8360-2995d6d5c87c-4 00:30:28.987 --> 00:30:33.393 mention that it's also um, a kind of a thing that's in our 174775c3-8b34-4abc-8360-2995d6d5c87c-5 00:30:33.393 --> 00:30:38.172 minds for just the practise of crisis translation. So ethics is 174775c3-8b34-4abc-8360-2995d6d5c87c-6 00:30:38.172 --> 00:30:39.890 really helpful as well. 5e378add-5980-4eaa-ac1a-58d62a8fc53c-0 00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:43.951 For, um, people who actually are doing this work, who are, are 5e378add-5980-4eaa-ac1a-58d62a8fc53c-1 00:30:43.951 --> 00:30:47.880 doing this translation when a crisis hits, and to some extent 5e378add-5980-4eaa-ac1a-58d62a8fc53c-2 00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:51.618 when when a crisis happens, a very natural question we ask 5e378add-5980-4eaa-ac1a-58d62a8fc53c-3 00:30:51.618 --> 00:30:55.356 ourselves is what should I do? And when, when we're asking 5e378add-5980-4eaa-ac1a-58d62a8fc53c-4 00:30:55.356 --> 00:30:58.841 ourselves those kind of questions, if there's any sort 5e378add-5980-4eaa-ac1a-58d62a8fc53c-5 00:30:58.841 --> 00:31:02.010 of moral element in there, I think we're kind of. fe448d5b-b2d1-4ead-9a30-56cc7ff44c3f-0 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.208 Intimately being pushed towards ethical questions there. And so fe448d5b-b2d1-4ead-9a30-56cc7ff44c3f-1 00:31:07.208 --> 00:31:11.279 you could even maybe argue that crisis translation is is sort of fe448d5b-b2d1-4ead-9a30-56cc7ff44c3f-2 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:14.912 intimately linked uh, with ethics I one thing that people fe448d5b-b2d1-4ead-9a30-56cc7ff44c3f-3 00:31:14.912 --> 00:31:18.670 say is all you know if it's crisis, there's there's no time fe448d5b-b2d1-4ead-9a30-56cc7ff44c3f-4 00:31:18.670 --> 00:31:22.302 for ethical thinking and I really quite strongly disagree fe448d5b-b2d1-4ead-9a30-56cc7ff44c3f-5 00:31:22.302 --> 00:31:25.998 with that. I think you know crisis translators will always fe448d5b-b2d1-4ead-9a30-56cc7ff44c3f-6 00:31:25.998 --> 00:31:29.756 have limited resources, but time may not always be the most fe448d5b-b2d1-4ead-9a30-56cc7ff44c3f-7 00:31:29.756 --> 00:31:32.700 limiting factor. So as I said you can look at. 6452fcde-a275-4b4f-bb8b-8409dfb915a2-0 00:31:32.770 --> 00:31:36.691 Prices in the short to medium and the long term. And so there 6452fcde-a275-4b4f-bb8b-8409dfb915a2-1 00:31:36.691 --> 00:31:40.106 is time, I think, for ethical thinking, especially in 6452fcde-a275-4b4f-bb8b-8409dfb915a2-2 00:31:40.106 --> 00:31:43.710 preparation for for future crises. But also I think it's 6452fcde-a275-4b4f-bb8b-8409dfb915a2-3 00:31:43.710 --> 00:31:47.695 worth pointing out that in other contexts where time is of the 6452fcde-a275-4b4f-bb8b-8409dfb915a2-4 00:31:47.695 --> 00:31:51.363 essence, like in an emergency room in a hospital or a for 6452fcde-a275-4b4f-bb8b-8409dfb915a2-5 00:31:51.363 --> 00:31:55.031 search and rescue, those individuals involved are trained 6452fcde-a275-4b4f-bb8b-8409dfb915a2-6 00:31:55.031 --> 00:31:58.699 in advance and they're given support afterwards on how to 6452fcde-a275-4b4f-bb8b-8409dfb915a2-7 00:31:58.699 --> 00:32:02.809 make and deal with very complex ethical decisions quite quickly. 465df58b-c006-427f-bc29-a3a2841f9084-0 00:32:02.980 --> 00:32:06.771 So I just wanted to sort of before talking about the 465df58b-c006-427f-bc29-a3a2841f9084-1 00:32:06.771 --> 00:32:11.492 research process, just mentioned that I think, um, ethical issues 465df58b-c006-427f-bc29-a3a2841f9084-2 00:32:11.492 --> 00:32:15.927 are also really fundamental to crisis translation itself. And 465df58b-c006-427f-bc29-a3a2841f9084-3 00:32:15.927 --> 00:32:20.076 if you are studying in this area, I'd encourage you to to 465df58b-c006-427f-bc29-a3a2841f9084-4 00:32:20.076 --> 00:32:24.296 think about um. Ethics in relation to to the topic. So now 465df58b-c006-427f-bc29-a3a2841f9084-5 00:32:24.296 --> 00:32:28.588 I'll finish off by by just dealing with those kind of three 465df58b-c006-427f-bc29-a3a2841f9084-6 00:32:28.588 --> 00:32:32.380 ethical categories and in terms of research, so, um. 53cf2355-6fc0-414e-8d43-f5aedc11341d-0 00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:36.859 For for me, like the first one is representation. I really mean 53cf2355-6fc0-414e-8d43-f5aedc11341d-1 00:32:36.859 --> 00:32:40.236 when I'm talking about representation, it's kind of how 53cf2355-6fc0-414e-8d43-f5aedc11341d-2 00:32:40.236 --> 00:32:43.432 you represent yourself to the research participants, 53cf2355-6fc0-414e-8d43-f5aedc11341d-3 00:32:43.432 --> 00:32:46.869 especially if you happen to share some kind of analogous 53cf2355-6fc0-414e-8d43-f5aedc11341d-4 00:32:46.869 --> 00:32:50.487 experiences with them, and especially if you yourself could 53cf2355-6fc0-414e-8d43-f5aedc11341d-5 00:32:50.487 --> 00:32:53.563 be considered as as a participant in the research. 53cf2355-6fc0-414e-8d43-f5aedc11341d-6 00:32:53.563 --> 00:32:57.241 This is where I think you need to think carefully about your 53cf2355-6fc0-414e-8d43-f5aedc11341d-7 00:32:57.241 --> 00:33:00.920 your positionality when you're using lift experiences. Um, I 53cf2355-6fc0-414e-8d43-f5aedc11341d-8 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:02.849 think representation also means. adf95845-2aa3-4df0-a47b-86ac63d356c7-0 00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:06.971 Some mechanisms to ensure that you're representing the voices adf95845-2aa3-4df0-a47b-86ac63d356c7-1 00:33:06.971 --> 00:33:11.134 of your participants faithfully throughout the research process. adf95845-2aa3-4df0-a47b-86ac63d356c7-2 00:33:11.134 --> 00:33:14.850 Um, I feel that a lot of our institutional mechanisms are adf95845-2aa3-4df0-a47b-86ac63d356c7-3 00:33:14.850 --> 00:33:18.885 geared towards the pre gathering stages. I think ethics can be adf95845-2aa3-4df0-a47b-86ac63d356c7-4 00:33:18.885 --> 00:33:22.728 important all the way through and and so representation can adf95845-2aa3-4df0-a47b-86ac63d356c7-5 00:33:22.728 --> 00:33:26.571 help you kind of remember that. And finally I think they're adf95845-2aa3-4df0-a47b-86ac63d356c7-6 00:33:26.571 --> 00:33:30.287 there can be a sort of a a responsibility to give a voice adf95845-2aa3-4df0-a47b-86ac63d356c7-7 00:33:30.287 --> 00:33:33.809 to people who might have trouble getting their voices. 1bf2d288-ee9f-4eda-a48d-646e715773da-0 00:33:33.890 --> 00:33:38.046 3rd and this is of course again a very contested point, and 1bf2d288-ee9f-4eda-a48d-646e715773da-1 00:33:38.046 --> 00:33:42.411 there's a lot to consider about who gets to speak for whom and 1bf2d288-ee9f-4eda-a48d-646e715773da-2 00:33:42.411 --> 00:33:46.291 and why, or who gets to translate for whom and why. And 1bf2d288-ee9f-4eda-a48d-646e715773da-3 00:33:46.291 --> 00:33:50.309 I can't give you an answer to to many of those questions, 1bf2d288-ee9f-4eda-a48d-646e715773da-4 00:33:50.309 --> 00:33:54.328 certainly not in the time we have. But I think it's worth 1bf2d288-ee9f-4eda-a48d-646e715773da-5 00:33:54.328 --> 00:33:58.000 bearing in mind then just to interject for a moment. 0dac854b-a1b4-44e1-81df-ba90c4158df3-0 00:33:59.370 --> 00:34:03.507 Have about 5 minutes left of the presentation. OK, let's thank 0dac854b-a1b4-44e1-81df-ba90c4158df3-1 00:34:03.507 --> 00:34:07.580 you for that. I wasn't paying attention to the time basically 0dac854b-a1b4-44e1-81df-ba90c4158df3-2 00:34:07.580 --> 00:34:11.455 very quickly. Transparency as well is I would say just the 0dac854b-a1b4-44e1-81df-ba90c4158df3-3 00:34:11.455 --> 00:34:15.133 fact that nowadays through technology people can access 0dac854b-a1b4-44e1-81df-ba90c4158df3-4 00:34:15.133 --> 00:34:18.811 your research outputs much more easily. So I think it's 0dac854b-a1b4-44e1-81df-ba90c4158df3-5 00:34:18.811 --> 00:34:22.686 important to to get their sign off if you're you're you're 0dac854b-a1b4-44e1-81df-ba90c4158df3-6 00:34:22.686 --> 00:34:26.955 sharing their lived experiences and then reciprocity is about to 0dac854b-a1b4-44e1-81df-ba90c4158df3-7 00:34:26.955 --> 00:34:29.780 some extent making sure that the research. baf103ac-1403-4763-b2eb-afb78ab73616-0 00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:33.639 Produce can be understood and can be accessed by the people baf103ac-1403-4763-b2eb-afb78ab73616-1 00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:37.273 who have participated in your research. Um, apologies for baf103ac-1403-4763-b2eb-afb78ab73616-2 00:34:37.273 --> 00:34:41.033 that. I was waffling on as usual, so that's all I wanted to baf103ac-1403-4763-b2eb-afb78ab73616-3 00:34:41.033 --> 00:34:42.600 say. Thank you very much. 1ddeb513-1060-4352-853e-e9e42a8c5163-0 00:34:45.050 --> 00:34:50.388 Thank you very much, Patrick for that presentation. I will stop 1ddeb513-1060-4352-853e-e9e42a8c5163-1 00:34:50.388 --> 00:34:55.810 the recording now and very much look forward to this discussion.