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Our premise was that women are
more disadvantaged compared to

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men in the journeys to
appropriate and qualify

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reemployment and，for example，one
of the reasons，as our research

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confirmed，is that women are
often the main caregivers in

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their families and therefore
they have an additional

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responsibilities and they will
often in research the various

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encounter by refugees and allies
killed。Refugees are conflated

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with the with the various
encounter by economic migrants。

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And and therefore there is not
just a lack of research on the

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experiences of this particular
group of people，but there is a

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complete lack of experience on
the extra layer of

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marginalization that women
encounter as highly skilled

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professional get displaced when
you context。

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In terms of the methodology of
the project，it is a qualitative

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project。As I mentioned before，we
had over eighteen months to

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faces during phase one，and phase
one is the phase that I'm going

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to focus on today。We had a
series of one to one interviews

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with I skilled women who are
currently looking for

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employment，so in a previous
study that we conducted with

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colleagues here in the UK and
also Austria and the

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Netherlands，we look at the
experiences of I scale refugees。

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We doubt focusing specifically
on women and doing phase one。We

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look for success stories，so for
people who have been able to

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rebuild their careers in the
case of this project，we decided

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to focus on women who are
currently looking for employment

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and some of them have been in
the UK for a very long time like

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over a decade。But they haven't
been able to find employment

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that is。

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Relevant to their
polygification，so this was phase

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one。During phase two we had a
series of collaborative workshop

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with a local charity in North
Yorkshire，so during this phase

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we work again with groups of
women，so mostly they were

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different from the women into to
back into phase one and we work

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with them to look for solutions
to the barriers that the Alice

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killed refugees women are
encountering and we have a

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multilingual and multinational
team of。

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Four women researchers，so I
think that some of my colleagues

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are here today，so maybe they can
also be part of the Q and a。

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And so we have different
nationalities and different

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languages in terms of identity
and expertise within the

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team，and we really wanted to
have women's experiences at the

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center of our projects。So
looking yes that experiences at

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various but also at potential
practical solutions。

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And today I'm gonna offer some
insights into part one，so as I

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was saying，this is a series of
interview and during I think。

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Last year in the auto，we sent
out a series of calls for

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participants to our own academic
networks，some specific Facebook

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groups，and we had a very，very
high response。I think that

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overall we had maybe fifty
people or maybe more who

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conducted us。Although not
everyone was necessarily

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eligible here on my screen，you
can see the leaflet。So what we

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put in the call for
participants？So we asked that

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people identify as a woman our
age。

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Eighteen and above the end of
day refugee status for at least

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six months。This because we
wanted to interview people who

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are in the position to work in
the UK and who have had at least

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six months to find a job and
then have them be successful。So

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here you can see our goal for
participants was saying we had a

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very，very，very good response。I
think all of us were surprised

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of how far the call for
participants went and。

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Our interview，so each of
U.S.team members conducted the

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interviews。One thing that we
didn't do is asking people about

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their personal circumstances at
the time of

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displacement，especially because
we didn't want people to go

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through experiences of trauma in
a way that is unnecessary。

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And what we talk about was their
educational and professional

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background，so we asked them
about their job experiences and

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their qualifications，what it is
that they studied if they lived

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in other countries，and then we
look at their experiences of

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looking for employment in the
UK，including concerns and we

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also ask people for what kind of
support they would have wanted

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for they want in the future。

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So because this is a small
project and the budget was

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really limited。

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And also because all of us like
to work，I like to have direct

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engagement with participants。We
decided not to work with

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interpreters，so we offer
interviews in English and in the

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other languages that some of us
speak。

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But really，because English is
the second language to all of

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us，we operate the dinner lingo
franca space。If you want。What we

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did，though，is that we offer
multilingual participant

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information sheets and consent
form，so we offered them in

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English but also in Farsi and in
Arabic because we anticipated

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that this would have been major
languages or prominent languages

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in the data collection
process。So in terms of our

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participants，nine
women，different backgrounds

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ranging from medical
professionals，psychologies，teachers，engineers。

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And all participants were really
expressed a desire to find work

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in the UK as soon as
possible。Some of them are trying

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to look for jobs in the original
fields or。

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They are trying to rebuild the
carriers that they

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had。Why？Others said that for
different reasons they don't

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mind retraining and looking for
a career change。All participants

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are either unemployed or they
are in low skills and low paid

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jobs，so they are in a very，very
different situation from what

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they were in their own countries
in terms of length of permanent

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permanence in the UK。This
really，really varies。It ranges

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from fifteen。

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And six months and the majority
of these women have carrying

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duties。Some of them are single
mothers，single mothers and some

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of them are in the UK with a
partner countries of origin。I

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have a little table in my next
slide with professions and other

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details。Countries have
originally

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include，unsurprisingly
Ukraine，Iran，Iraq，Syria，Pakistan

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and we were extremely surprised
at the USA。

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So，this is a little overview of
our participants in a table，as

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you can see，they are all between
the reliterities and the early

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fifties。

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So they are the F and H where
they are definitely employable

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and the majority of them have
been looking actively for

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employment for a very long
time。Some of them have lived in

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other countries before coming to
the UK and there was a high

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degree of
multilingualism。Although

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interestingly，none of our
participant felt that the other

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languages。The language is
different from English that we

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speak are usable or。

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Bobble couple in terms of
employability。

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So did it an overview of our
participants in terms of our

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analytical framework in a
nutshell，because we are based in

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intercultural communication in
applying with six and

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intercultural communication。

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We are drawing on intercultural
communication theory and

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empirical research，particularly
at research including the one

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that the research should be
conducted ourselves into the

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experiences of displays
groups，so we are interested in

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concept of
multilingualism，multiple duality

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and also language and identity
in relation to context of

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displacement。We adopted a rapper
to our approach to languages

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where。

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Wolfling was individual are not
seen as efficient，but they are

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seen as having an extra acid if
you want，and this is an approach

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that we adopted in terms of how
we look at our data，but also in

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00:09:27.394 --> 00:09:30.813
how we engage with our
participants，so we really

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1283-4
00:09:30.813 --> 00:09:35.068
emphasize the fact that although
unfortunately for different

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1283-5
00:09:35.068 --> 00:09:38.557
reasons，we could not offer as
researchers all the

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1283-6
00:09:38.557 --> 00:09:42.463
languages，all the first
languages that our participants

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1283-7
00:09:42.463 --> 00:09:46.231
speak，we definitely see not
being an l one speaker of

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1283-8
00:09:46.231 --> 00:09:49.440
English as an asset rather than
as a problem。

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00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:54.873
And also we are drawing on
critical race theory as a tool

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00:09:54.873 --> 00:09:59.341
for critical analysis and
intervention，and this is because

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1354-2
00:09:59.341 --> 00:10:03.658
we really want to look at
contextualizing discrimination

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1354-3
00:10:03.658 --> 00:10:08.202
and in relation to the socio
political context where people

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1354-4
00:10:08.202 --> 00:10:12.444
have been displayed，so this is
our analytical framework

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00:10:12.444 --> 00:10:16.609
very，very briefly in a
nutshell，and today I'm going to

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00:10:16.609 --> 00:10:20.927
present an overview of findings
on phase one，so from the

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1354-7
00:10:20.927 --> 00:10:21.760
interviews。

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00:10:22.660 --> 00:10:26.865
And one thing that we did
is，um，looking at previous

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00:10:26.865 --> 00:10:31.232
research on refugees and
employability，and we draw on

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1428-2
00:10:31.232 --> 00:10:36.489
these studies，so this is a study
conducted in Australia and what

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1428-3
00:10:36.489 --> 00:10:41.827
the researchers did was dividing
the barriers face by refugees as

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1428-4
00:10:41.827 --> 00:10:47.084
they look for reemployment into
two main blocks or categories。If

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1428-5
00:10:47.084 --> 00:10:52.179
you want so you have contextual
barriers and these are related

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1428-6
00:10:52.179 --> 00:10:55.980
to the context of
displacement。So for example。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1472-0
00:10:56.740 --> 00:11:01.411
The immigration policies or the
policies around recognition of

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00:11:01.411 --> 00:11:06.008
qualifications？And then there
are personal barriers and these

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1472-2
00:11:06.008 --> 00:11:10.383
are related to the individual's
personal background，so for

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00:11:10.383 --> 00:11:14.461
example，the circumstances of
displacement，the language

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1472-4
00:11:14.461 --> 00:11:14.980
skills。

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00:11:16.740 --> 00:11:18.420
The family situation。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1513-0
00:11:19.400 --> 00:11:23.780
The reason anything about caring
skills in sorry caring

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1513-1
00:11:23.780 --> 00:11:28.239
skills，caring duties in the
original study。Although this

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1513-2
00:11:28.239 --> 00:11:33.245
were of course very prevalent in
our work and on the right。This

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1513-3
00:11:33.245 --> 00:11:33.480
is。

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00:11:35.140 --> 00:11:39.157
A picture from one of the
workshop that we had in

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1531-1
00:11:39.157 --> 00:11:43.415
London，where we look at
strategies for change with a

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1531-2
00:11:43.415 --> 00:11:44.380
group of um。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1539-0
00:11:46.890 --> 00:11:50.570
Participants，but also members of
the wider community。

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00:11:52.310 --> 00:11:58.710
So the first step of contextual
barriers um really examines our

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1554-1
00:11:58.710 --> 00:11:59.310
being。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1573-0
00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:08.252
A displaced person represents an
issue for our participants。For

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1573-1
00:12:08.252 --> 00:12:11.960
example，Leila was a lecture in
Iran。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1640-0
00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:17.259
Shared that employers would not
follow up on their

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1640-1
00:12:17.259 --> 00:12:21.348
application。Where was that？She
applies for a job and she

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1640-2
00:12:21.348 --> 00:12:25.939
declares erasylum status，so this
is something that people share

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00:12:25.939 --> 00:12:30.316
with us very frequently and I
think in all the interviews。So

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1640-4
00:12:30.316 --> 00:12:34.620
although legally refugees are
allowed to work in the UK，our

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1640-5
00:12:34.620 --> 00:12:39.140
participants felt that one that
people share their immigration

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00:12:39.140 --> 00:12:40.360
status employers。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1695-0
00:12:40.620 --> 00:12:45.595
Their back and they find excuses
not to employ them。So she said

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1695-1
00:12:45.595 --> 00:12:50.493
when I was in in my immigration
stages，I applied for a job two

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1695-2
00:12:50.493 --> 00:12:55.391
or three times and I used to get
refused because I'm on asylum

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1695-3
00:12:55.391 --> 00:12:59.900
seekers and he actually means
refugees，even if I have the

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1695-4
00:12:59.900 --> 00:13:04.564
right to work。They did not
accept it，so this means that she

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1695-5
00:13:04.564 --> 00:13:05.420
was really。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1715-0
00:13:06.870 --> 00:13:11.463
She didn't feel like applying
for jobs um anymore，and um，and

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00:13:11.463 --> 00:13:15.830
really the fact that people have
been mostly turned down。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1744-0
00:13:17.680 --> 00:13:22.597
A lot of times has been
really。I'll just say a very，very

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1744-1
00:13:22.597 --> 00:13:28.205
negative experience and because
then most participants felt that

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1744-2
00:13:28.205 --> 00:13:33.122
they don't really have the
confidence to apply for a job

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1744-3
00:13:33.122 --> 00:13:33.640
again。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1755-0
00:13:35.640 --> 00:13:40.960
So I'm gonna give maybe few
seconds if people want to read。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1758-0
00:13:42.680 --> 00:13:43.160
In the account。

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00:13:53.170 --> 00:13:57.836
Racial discrimination was also
very prominent in our

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1786-1
00:13:57.836 --> 00:14:02.854
data。Again，participants reported
that when they look for

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1786-2
00:14:02.854 --> 00:14:08.313
work，they felt，for example，that
if they were white they would

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00:14:08.313 --> 00:14:10.690
have had higher chances。So。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1850-0
00:14:11.710 --> 00:14:16.702
And and this is，for example，is
the account of Tracy，a case

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1850-1
00:14:16.702 --> 00:14:22.033
she，so she's the refugee person
from the USA。Case is very，very

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1850-2
00:14:22.033 --> 00:14:27.364
interesting because she doesn't
have language barriers。English

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1850-3
00:14:27.364 --> 00:14:32.018
is her first language，but
nevertheless，she reported on

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1850-4
00:14:32.018 --> 00:14:37.349
racial discrimination and on the
fact that she feels that ones

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1850-5
00:14:37.349 --> 00:14:42.342
that people realize that she's
not white。Then she has zero

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1850-6
00:14:42.342 --> 00:14:43.950
chances of getting。

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00:14:45.830 --> 00:14:49.754
Any job and therefore she's
stuck in a cycle where she has

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1866-1
00:14:49.754 --> 00:14:51.550
to work in restaurants and。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1881-0
00:14:59.530 --> 00:15:03.507
So I must say on the topic of
racial discrimination that a lot

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1881-1
00:15:03.507 --> 00:15:04.770
of the participants。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1885-0
00:15:07.210 --> 00:15:08.450
They were very。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1964-0
00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:13.139
Guarded if you want like the
people that I personally

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1964-1
00:15:13.139 --> 00:15:17.274
interview did not want to say
that they experience racism，so

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1964-2
00:15:17.274 --> 00:15:21.340
racism，so they were very，very
mindful and some of them said

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1964-3
00:15:21.340 --> 00:15:25.474
yes，this happened to me，but
maybe it's not because of what I

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1964-4
00:15:25.474 --> 00:15:29.269
wear or how I look，it might be
something else。And to be

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1964-5
00:15:29.269 --> 00:15:33.336
honest，as a researcher，I don't
know if it is because we had

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1964-6
00:15:33.336 --> 00:15:37.741
very brief interactions because
all the interviews were about an

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1964-7
00:15:37.741 --> 00:15:41.604
hour and an hour and a half。So
it is also possible in my

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1964-8
00:15:41.604 --> 00:15:42.960
opinion，that people。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1999-0
00:15:44.020 --> 00:15:47.903
Did not want to share the whole
experience in terms of racial

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1999-1
00:15:47.903 --> 00:15:51.724
discrimination，but they were
definitely episodes that people

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1999-2
00:15:51.724 --> 00:15:55.356
share where they felt that
because they are not white and

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/1999-3
00:15:55.356 --> 00:15:56.860
they were discriminated。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2068-0
00:15:57.920 --> 00:16:02.567
Another contextual barriers as
to do with documentation issues

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2068-1
00:16:02.567 --> 00:16:06.994
and systemic neglect。So，for
example，Tara was a stem teacher

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2068-2
00:16:06.994 --> 00:16:10.830
from Pakistan and she has
encounter a lot of issues

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2068-3
00:16:10.830 --> 00:16:14.887
because despite the fact that
she has been a victim of

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2068-4
00:16:14.887 --> 00:16:18.871
domestic abuse and sore
ex-husband has stolen her and

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2068-5
00:16:18.871 --> 00:16:23.518
the daughter's passport and the
system was just making it very

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2068-6
00:16:23.518 --> 00:16:27.576
difficult for her to provide
means for her to obtain a

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2068-7
00:16:27.576 --> 00:16:28.240
passport。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2111-0
00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:33.444
And this means that without a
password，she could not apply for

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2111-1
00:16:33.444 --> 00:16:37.836
her preset those status and be
recognized by the Home Office。So

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2111-2
00:16:37.836 --> 00:16:42.023
again，people really felt that
there aren't barriers in place

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2111-3
00:16:42.023 --> 00:16:45.523
in terms of at the
regulations，but also that's the

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2111-4
00:16:45.523 --> 00:16:47.720
institutions are not supportive。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2147-0
00:16:53.060 --> 00:16:58.151
Another finding that we have is
lack of experience obstructing

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2147-1
00:16:58.151 --> 00:17:03.241
access to experience，so this is
really a circular issue and of

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2147-2
00:17:03.241 --> 00:17:07.928
course，it's not necessarily
specific to refugees only，but

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2147-3
00:17:07.928 --> 00:17:09.060
the idea that。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2165-0
00:17:09.970 --> 00:17:14.281
To get experience and to build
your CV，you need preexisting

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2165-1
00:17:14.281 --> 00:17:18.090
experience，otherwise nobody
would give you a chance。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2187-0
00:17:18.990 --> 00:17:22.326
And this problem was
particularly significant for for

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2187-1
00:17:22.326 --> 00:17:26.403
our participants because some of
them had gap in their employment

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2187-2
00:17:26.403 --> 00:17:29.430
because maybe they've been
previously displayed。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2197-0
00:17:31.470 --> 00:17:34.843
And they spent a long time
without having been able to

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2197-1
00:17:34.843 --> 00:17:35.150
work。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2208-0
00:17:36.590 --> 00:17:42.070
And but also they were never
offered the opportunity to。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2239-0
00:17:43.630 --> 00:17:47.760
Gain experience，unless this was
in an unpaid capacity，so some of

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2239-1
00:17:47.760 --> 00:17:51.636
them said that they can access
volunteering work，so work for

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2239-2
00:17:51.636 --> 00:17:55.576
free，but they're not considered
good enough to be offered pay

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2239-3
00:17:55.576 --> 00:17:55.830
job。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2268-0
00:17:59.230 --> 00:18:03.128
The recognition of qualification
and this is something that we

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2268-1
00:18:03.128 --> 00:18:07.212
found in our previous study with
refugees。So the reason a body in

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2268-2
00:18:07.212 --> 00:18:09.750
the UK called the UK narik where
you go？

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2318-0
00:18:11.390 --> 00:18:16.092
If you want to get recognized
the qualification that you gain

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2318-1
00:18:16.092 --> 00:18:21.022
abroad，so the fact that a number
of our participants struggle to

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2318-2
00:18:21.022 --> 00:18:26.028
get the qualification recognized
by professional bodies and or by

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2318-3
00:18:26.028 --> 00:18:28.910
the UK narrowing was a major
barrier。

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2389-0
00:18:30.060 --> 00:18:34.080
And what is really interesting
is that sometimes is not about

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2389-1
00:18:34.080 --> 00:18:37.193
the recognition of
qualifications per se。So for

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2389-2
00:18:37.193 --> 00:18:41.279
example，Tracy，the refugee from
the US，she has a degree that is

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2389-3
00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:45.105
valid can be usable in the
UK。But she was told a number of

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2389-4
00:18:45.105 --> 00:18:49.320
times that it would be better if
she had the UK degree。And again

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2389-5
00:18:49.320 --> 00:18:52.693
this was something that our
participants share very

0e42fc00-479d-405e-877b-a18a6ac18f65/2389-6
00:18:52.693 --> 00:18:56.454
commonly。That is not necessarily
that they cannot use the

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00:18:56.454 --> 00:19:00.540
degree，but very often employees
would tell them that it would。

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00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:04.995
They would be，they would look
better or they would be more。It

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00:19:04.995 --> 00:19:08.808
would be an evidence that
they're better trained if their

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00:19:08.808 --> 00:19:10.320
degree was from the UK。

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00:19:11.730 --> 00:19:13.650
In terms of personal barriers。

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00:19:15.730 --> 00:19:19.907
Very，this is where our research
that is gender specific is very

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00:19:19.907 --> 00:19:23.758
different from the research that
we did before with asylum

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00:19:23.758 --> 00:19:27.610
seekers and refugees without
distinguishing men and women。

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00:19:29.330 --> 00:19:33.805
So in previous research，we found
that sometimes language barriers

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00:19:33.805 --> 00:19:37.941
can represent an issue in terms
of employment，so none of our

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00:19:37.941 --> 00:19:40.993
participants add actual language
barriers。Of

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00:19:40.993 --> 00:19:44.858
course，everybody，everybody
speaks with an accent，but for

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00:19:44.858 --> 00:19:48.791
them，what was really holding
them back is the fear of not

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00:19:48.791 --> 00:19:52.927
speaking English properly or the
fact that they have been in

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00:19:52.927 --> 00:19:57.063
situations where people made
them feel uncomfortable because

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00:19:57.063 --> 00:20:01.403
of their accent because of the
grammar and because they are not

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00:20:01.403 --> 00:20:01.810
l one。

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00:20:02.110 --> 00:20:03.390
Which speakers of？

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00:20:04.970 --> 00:20:07.961
Um English so yeah，for
example，you have an

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00:20:07.961 --> 00:20:12.344
account，uh，from saying that and
that reports that after having

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00:20:12.344 --> 00:20:15.962
experienced discrimination and
now she feels really

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00:20:15.962 --> 00:20:19.789
uncomfortable about speaking
English in a professional

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00:20:19.789 --> 00:20:24.102
settings because she's more and
more aware about the mistakes

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00:20:24.102 --> 00:20:28.416
that she make and she feels that
she could not function as an

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00:20:28.416 --> 00:20:32.869
English language teacher，which
is something that she never felt

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00:20:32.869 --> 00:20:34.330
before about herself。

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00:20:35.810 --> 00:20:38.690
Again，lack of confidence。

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00:20:40.270 --> 00:20:44.457
Also due to the fact that a
number of participants have gaps

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00:20:44.457 --> 00:20:48.508
in their employment history，and
especially compared to non

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00:20:48.508 --> 00:20:52.558
displaced people。So they felt
they feel that the fact that

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00:20:52.558 --> 00:20:56.814
their lives and careers are not
linear is a huge disadvantage

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00:20:56.814 --> 00:21:00.521
and therefore people feel less
employable because the

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00:21:00.521 --> 00:21:04.777
trajectories are not，they're
quite they're being disrupted by

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00:21:04.777 --> 00:21:05.670
displacement。

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00:21:11.120 --> 00:21:16.129
Isolation and sense of belonging
was another major barriers and

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00:21:16.129 --> 00:21:20.983
this is the account of Ellie was
a head nurse and in Iran，and

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00:21:20.983 --> 00:21:25.601
after having tried multiple
times to look for a job so she

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00:21:25.601 --> 00:21:30.533
tried to get her qualifications
and recognizing the UK，looking

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00:21:30.533 --> 00:21:35.464
for volunteering，and then she
turned to her own community more

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00:21:35.464 --> 00:21:39.613
in terms of the refugee
community and she started to

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00:21:39.613 --> 00:21:42.040
volunteer。They are saying that。

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00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:44.280
Sometimes in。

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00:21:45.080 --> 00:21:49.197
Experience is better if you turn
to your own community because

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00:21:49.197 --> 00:21:52.922
it's where you will find
support，so this is the piece of

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00:21:52.922 --> 00:21:56.320
advice that she offered to other
refugee women and。

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00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:02.369
That is，of course，useful and
it's their experience，but it's

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00:22:02.369 --> 00:22:06.818
also problematic because it
basically implied that she gave

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00:22:06.818 --> 00:22:11.415
up on rebuilding an old career
as a nurse。We again，we are not

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00:22:11.415 --> 00:22:15.568
sure on where and how to
position caring duties because

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00:22:15.568 --> 00:22:19.721
these are both personal and
contextual barriers that，of

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00:22:19.721 --> 00:22:20.240
course。

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00:22:21.840 --> 00:22:25.535
The fact that childcare is
extremely expensive in the UKI

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00:22:25.535 --> 00:22:29.358
believe the most expensive
childcare in Europe is a problem

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00:22:29.358 --> 00:22:33.245
to all women，but particularly
this was very difficult in the

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00:22:33.245 --> 00:22:37.068
case of our participants，because
a lot of them don't have a

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00:22:37.068 --> 00:22:41.018
network，they don't have anybody
else who can look after their

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00:22:41.018 --> 00:22:45.096
children。And a lot of them also
felt that if they choose not to

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00:22:45.096 --> 00:22:49.301
work full time，they will be less
employable and they will be even

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00:22:49.301 --> 00:22:53.443
more discriminated because their
impotential employees will feel

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00:22:53.443 --> 00:22:54.080
that they。

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00:22:54.440 --> 00:22:58.160
So here you have a an account
from Jane，and she explains that

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00:22:58.160 --> 00:23:01.520
she really needs a job from
office nine to office three

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00:23:01.520 --> 00:23:05.420
because she doesn't have anybody
else who can help to pick up as

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00:23:05.420 --> 00:23:06.800
a daughter from school。

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00:23:13.740 --> 00:23:18.113
We were all also interested in
the dynamics that these women

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00:23:18.113 --> 00:23:21.984
experience within their
families，and all of them said

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00:23:21.984 --> 00:23:26.213
that if they have a partner or a
husband，their husbands or

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00:23:26.213 --> 00:23:30.730
partners are very supportive at
the same time，all of them said

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00:23:30.730 --> 00:23:34.888
that if a choice needs to be
made，then the husband career

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00:23:34.888 --> 00:23:35.820
needs to get。

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00:23:37.420 --> 00:23:41.780
Priority，and this means that in
in some cases。

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00:23:43.420 --> 00:23:47.690
Are。Some of our participants had
to sacrifice particular

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00:23:47.690 --> 00:23:52.184
opportunities because their
husband had to take priority，so

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00:23:52.184 --> 00:23:57.054
this is again something that we
haven't found in terms of buried

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00:23:57.054 --> 00:24:01.698
that people face in previous
research because it is very，very

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00:24:01.698 --> 00:24:06.193
specific to the experiences of
women。So wrapping up so that

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00:24:06.193 --> 00:24:10.238
there is a bit of time for
questions。So here does our

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00:24:10.238 --> 00:24:13.460
team，so it's an A me Alexandra
and farida。

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00:24:14.540 --> 00:24:17.220
And it's still working
progress，so。

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00:24:19.320 --> 00:24:24.056
I need suggestions of any type
really appreciated。So far we can

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00:24:24.056 --> 00:24:28.718
say that compared with previous
research where gender wasn't a

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00:24:28.718 --> 00:24:32.196
focal point，it's really
shocking。Our number of

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00:24:32.196 --> 00:24:36.562
participants did not actually
lack skills，so it's not that

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00:24:36.562 --> 00:24:41.076
they didn't have professional
qualifications。They didn't not

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00:24:41.076 --> 00:24:45.294
have experience or language
skills，but really they found

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00:24:45.294 --> 00:24:47.440
themselves in a position and。

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00:24:48.310 --> 00:24:52.917
Where they were pushed to lack
confidence。We had a number of

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00:24:52.917 --> 00:24:57.750
participants who said I now feel
that I'm not good enough to do

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00:24:57.750 --> 00:25:02.206
something。And previous research
shows that Alaska refugees

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00:25:02.206 --> 00:25:06.813
compared to other groups are
less keen to accept low skilled

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00:25:06.813 --> 00:25:10.966
work。Now this is also very
problematic because all our

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00:25:10.966 --> 00:25:15.800
participants were really keen on
accepting any type of work，but

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00:25:15.800 --> 00:25:18.670
erases the question of whether
it is。

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00:25:19.150 --> 00:25:23.573
For people were highly
skilled，adding to look for low

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00:25:23.573 --> 00:25:26.030
paid and low skilled jobs，and。

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00:25:27.370 --> 00:25:31.372
Our study confirmed that
unfortunately，unpaid work is

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00:25:31.372 --> 00:25:35.746
often used as a route back to
employment and and again，you

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00:25:35.746 --> 00:25:40.564
might want to consider why it is
OK for certain groups of people

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00:25:40.564 --> 00:25:45.012
to work for free，but they're not
considered very often good

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00:25:45.012 --> 00:25:48.570
enough by employer to be offer
paid employment。

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00:25:49.830 --> 00:25:53.910
And again，as I was
anticipating，yes，it is important

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00:25:53.910 --> 00:25:58.304
that，um，people are able to get
support from migrant and

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00:25:58.304 --> 00:26:03.011
refugees communities，but these
also raises question on what

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00:26:03.011 --> 00:26:07.876
support is available from the
host community more broadly and

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00:26:07.876 --> 00:26:10.230
from the government in the UK？

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00:26:11.530 --> 00:26:16.250
Some useful readings if anybody。

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00:26:16.370 --> 00:26:20.490
Is interested and thank you so
much for coming today。

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00:26:23.220 --> 00:26:25.300
I'm going to。Shall I stop
sharing my screen？

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00:26:26.660 --> 00:26:30.300
Thank you very much for your
wonderful talk。Um。

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00:26:29.930 --> 00:26:31.170
So that I can see was there？

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00:26:31.700 --> 00:26:36.802
Yeah，uh，we are not transition to
the discussion part，and we just

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00:26:36.802 --> 00:26:37.980
stop recording。