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Great, well thank you.

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 Thank you very much to MITN for. 

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Inviting me to talk to you all this evening.

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Like Joe said, my name is Catherine.

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I'm a third and final year

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PhD students at Warwick.

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Uhm, before I started doing the PhD,

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I was an ESOL teacher.

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In England for 11 1/2 years.

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Which. Influenced my decision

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for the topic of my PhD,

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which is all about adult easom.

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And so I'm going to be

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talking to you about, UM.

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One strand of my data collection

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that was done last year.

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The last academic year and so the topic

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of the talk this evening is adult ESOL.

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During the COVID-19 pandemic,

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teachers perceptions of learners motivation.

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So very briefly, for anybody who

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wasn't aware of Isola adult ESOL?

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ESOL is English for speakers

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of other languages. UM,

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it is English language provision classes for.

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Anybody over the age of 16 who has

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moved to England in order to settle,

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so it's not international students.

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It's not people coming just for

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a short time with people who are

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coming to live in the country.

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And. I'm talking about adult ESOL.

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Most is a provision separates

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teenagers from adults in classes,

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and so my focus is on adults.

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Is government funded, uhm?

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With us, some students do pay fees.

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Exam results are directly linked

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to funding ethos to students.

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Take the ESOL skills for life exams.

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And are usually expected to

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take exams in awful skills each

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year to move up the levels.

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Uhm? Who are the students I'm

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gonna show you a quick map.

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Of where some students are from UM.

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Like I said, I'm going to be

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talking about teacher interviews.

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I gave the teachers a survey for them

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to pass on to their students for me.

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And this map shows where

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their students were from.

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So you can see kind of the

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the spread around the world.

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And if you imagine and typically

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saw class so you have 15 people,

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you might get there be 10

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or more nationalities,

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10 or more first languages.

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My range of different educational

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backgrounds,

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cultural backgrounds,

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all in the same class together.

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I'm what interest more interested

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me as a teacher was once the

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students get to the higher levels.

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They're no longer studying

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English for survival.

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They can public job they

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can talk to their neighbors.

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They can talk to the doctor.

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They can do most day-to-day things.

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So what motivates them to either continue

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learning ESOL or even just Astarte?

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Salt at that higher levels?

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So that's what interested me as a teacher,

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and what kind of got me

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into motivation research.

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When I did my first MA at Warwick.

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And. Looking at language

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learning motivation research.

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There's very little research into the

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motivation of adults learning languages.

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Uhm, if you look at the literature,

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you'll mostly find studies

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into university students. Uhm?

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Children in secondary schools.

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And there's very little on

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people learning English in an

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English speaking country who

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were kind of over the age of 25.

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And so. I searched, I found there was

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one study by Melanie Cook back in 2006.

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She published in research on 2.

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Adultism motivation in England

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is one of the very few other.

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Her focus was mainly on individual

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learning plans and how teachers

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set goals for the students.

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UM, I have.

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Attempted in my own way to add to

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the literature on this by doing

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a study on the impact of exams

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in my own classroom as action

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research and also more recently

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looked at the motivation of women

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in a multi level community class.

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And alongside this.

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One of the things I do I like from the

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FL research rather than easom is MMAMS

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yoders person in context approach,

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which I think fits in well with

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the soul because it's sort of.

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It calls for motivation research to take

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into account learners histories and

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lives outside of the classroom rather

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than just looking at their motivation

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to learn the language in the classroom.

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I'm not looking at any

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other part of their lives.

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And I feel like that matches

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well with adult ESOL,

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because of course they're adults and

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they've got busy lives going on.

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And and and there is Emerald shared

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is because one of my supervisors

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felt like I should say that.

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And so my research questions were.

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Trying to find out what motivates adults

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to enroll early so classes at the higher

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level kind of this is intermediate level,

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where esaul generally stops.

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What factors motivate these

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students during their costs,

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and what factors D motivate them?

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And the final research question,

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which was added on of summer of 2020.

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Was what impact has the COVID-19 pandemic had

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on their motivation to learn English? Uhm,

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I started my data collection September 2020.

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If you are able to cast your

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mind back to that time.

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We we come out of lockdown.

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In the summer this is England,

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so we've been in lockdown.

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We'd come out of lockdown.

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And education had opened

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up again in September.

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I managed to visit three ESOL

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classes in the September.

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Then Casey started rising.

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And I was told I was no longer

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allowed to visit any classrooms.

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It was it was not safe enough

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for me to do this.

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The university wouldn't let me.

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My funders wouldn't let me.

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I've managed to recruit for students.

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But I was worried that they might

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not stay with me for a year

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and I'd be left with no data.

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So I was left.

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I'm thinking how can I

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answer these questions?

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Do I need to completely change my project?

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Or can I answer them another way?

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So. I looked back at the literature

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and motivation and found a couple

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of studies that advanced teachers.

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About what they thought about

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their students motivation.

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Couldn't find anything on ecel teachers.

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Nothing. I found a study back

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glass which is in Chile about

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secondary school teachers students.

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How insecure that is in Japan

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of UM university students.

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But I liked the idea of contacting

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teachers and asking them what

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they thought and what they could

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tell me about their students.

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And so this is what I decided to do.

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I had to do it all online because of safety.

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I contacted and recruited teachers by UM,

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there's a nice old research just

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mail advertised on their social media

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and I used my own contacts because

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I'd been in ESOL myself for so long.

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So. I was lucky enough that 17 esal

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teachers agreed to be interviewed

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and came to the interviews

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that there should have been 19.

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One of them was a manager and was

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just too busy. And another one, uhm.

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The weekend before I was due to

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interview her both of her parents were

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taken into hospital with COVID-19.

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And she unfortunately lost her father.

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I mean, this is the reality of

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what was happening at the time.

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14 with female through a male,

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which is pretty typical.

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Off easel teaching with there's a

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lot of women teaching his soul.

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Uhm, their experience spanned

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from two years to 17 years.

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Although everybody had been teaching

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under five years, had taught English

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as a foreign language abroad,

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so they weren't new to English teaching,

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but they were new to ESOL.

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Seven worked in further education colleges.

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Seven worked in adult education to

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that's classes provided by local council.

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Three worked for charities.

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They were all employed.

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It all being paid.

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There were no volunteers and these

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were all accredited courses.

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At the time that I interviewed them, uhm?

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This was then November 2020.

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I got the ethical approval through

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and we went into a second lockdown.

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So my interview started.

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Other start of lockdown 2 in England.

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At which .7 were online?

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And two would be moved online

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the Friday before.

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Seven were still in classrooms,

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social distancing,

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and three were doing blended

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approach so partly online,

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partly in classrooms.

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So these were my participants.

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And.

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Because of the key motivation.

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The theoretical framework that

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I chose to use as part of my

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analysis of the teacher interviews,

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which I analyzed thematically

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according to my research questions.

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Self determination theory.

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Which, UM. Very simply. States that.

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For motivation to be present.

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We need three basic psychological

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needs to be met which are relatedness,

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competence and autonomy.

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If this team needs a match,

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then there is a higher chance of

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somebody being intrinsically motivated,

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so the motivation comes from within.

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Rather than it being external.

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And so it's more likely to stay with them.

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Relatedness is about inclusivity,

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feeling respected, UM,

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feeling secure, and in your learning,

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being part of a community.

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Competence is about, UM,

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feeling challenged in your learning.

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Feel like you're learning something new.

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I'm getting good feedback

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thinking about that.

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Good some formative assessment.

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make decisions about your own learning.

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Having the choice of how, when, to study UMD.

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Feeling that.

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Your needs are acknowledged so

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that goals aren't enforced on you.

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own learning goals.

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So these three things I'm going to

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be relating to some of the findings.

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So. Uhm? According to the interviews,

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the teachers told me why were

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their students enrolling on the

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courses at this intermediate level.

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All of them mentioned work.

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in the class to improve their English

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because of the job they already had.

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about future work.

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they needed English in order

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to get through an interview or.

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Maybe they wanted a job where they

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needed to speak more English.

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A future study was mentioned by 14 UM,

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so they're thinking about

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vocational course says, Uhm.

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English functional skills courses are

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university classes, so moving into HE.

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So they needed a higher level of English,

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especially academic English.

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I'm down at the bottom.

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Only one person talks about independence.

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Uh, there was a kind of presumption

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that by this level they were

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all ready pretty independent.

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Only two people talked about them

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wanting to integrate into British life.

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This wasn't a major theme at all.

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Uhm?

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I have constant things in the middle such

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as increasing confidence when speaking,

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communication,

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a lot of them talked about

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students wanting to come to class

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to speak English because it was

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their only opportunity to do so.

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So this forms part of the the

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general analysis that I did.

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Now on this side there is a lot

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on this slide and don't worry,

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I'm not going to be going

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into all of this today. Uhm?

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But I separated out the the things

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that teachers were telling me,

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the things that affected students motivation,

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either positively or negatively,

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or sometimes both depending

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on the student situation.

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And this was partly influenced by

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the transdisciplinary framework

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proposed by the Douglas FIR Group,

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which, looking which looks at kind of

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putting more than one thing together.

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When you're looking at.

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I am different reasons for

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something happening.

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So the macro level looking at factors

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that are put in place by state,

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government decisions, exam board decisions.

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This is a a level where teachers,

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ESOP providers,

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students really have no power.

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At the Mesa level in the middle.

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The teachers in ecel providers start

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having it a bit more power and are

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making decisions that are affecting

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student motivation along with students

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social identity and their on mobility.

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it's more about day-to-day.

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English by the students.

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Uhm, the use of their own

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linguistic resources that they

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have and their interactions with

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others and support from peers.

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I was looking at these basic

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psychological needs of relatedness,

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competence and autonomy.

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So as this talk is focusing

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on the pandemic and COVID-19,

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I'm gonna be picking out some

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quotes from teachers that are

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directly linked to the pandemic.

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And for each of them,

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relating them to these basic psychological

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needs to try and give you a kind of an

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overview of what was happening in Esau.

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So starting at the macro level.

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Uhm? Lockdowns and online access.

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These are things that were

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decided by the government.

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The government decided when we would go

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Uhm, so Kevin.

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All names have been changed and the

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participants chose their own pseudonyms.

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I'm Kevin.

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He had been working a college

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for four years teaching ESOL,

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and was in the classroom.

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He was telling me about what happened

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in the first lockdown in March.

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When they all went online.

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And so he said, in some of my classes.

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Maybe there's one phone per family.

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So for one person to take that phone

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for an hour and a half is a big ask,

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it could be that there's

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one screen per family.

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If it's a laptop.

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So like if we run it here now,

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that means that the kids

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aren't watching telly.

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Or yeah,

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that was a big thing during lockdown.

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And it could be as well that there's

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just like there's not that space.

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So I've got students that have

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their lesson on the stairs.

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Students that have their

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lessons in their car,

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you know, sort of sit outside.

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This is reality for a lot of ESOL students

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who have been forced to move online.

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Perhaps there autonomy was raised

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because they were doing their best.

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They were trying to make decisions.

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But the relatedness was

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being affected negatively.

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They were really struggling

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to access their classes.

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Also, at the macro level is exams.

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Uhm? Hey Chase, will provider can

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choose which exam board to use there

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are I think 5 different exam boards

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that offer ESL exams all do things

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differently and in the first lockdown all

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made different decisions about exams.

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So, Layla, who worked adult education.

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She told me that initially they exam

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boards said you could do speaking,

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listening online. That's an exam.

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Then after a month or so,

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they send out a notification saying no,

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this doesn't work because the quality

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of recordings wasn't good enough.

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Then they said no reading and writing.

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And then they revised that and said,

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if you think someone strong enough or

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would have passed if you can produce the

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evidence you know, send it in to us.

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So for some students doing this exam board,

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they did get a certificate.

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But others weren't so lucky.

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And Lucy, who works for charity.

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Tell me she worked.

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She had a different exam board.

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She said we were ready to do the writing

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exam in March and it was cancelled

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and so we went back in September.

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Prepared for the writing exam

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again and it was cancelled.

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So I'm now going to try and do the

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speaking writing together next March,

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so I hope it doesn't get cancelled again.

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So students are waiting for exams,

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they're being held back because they

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were not able to do the exams and were

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staying in the same level classes.

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Adam is a level I'm gonna talk about.

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Teachers attitude and teacher decisions.

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And how they were affecting

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students motivation to learn?

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Says Barbara told me he went to a charity.

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I literally went from one week in

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the classroom to teaching online

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the next week and they actually

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really embraced the change.

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I just thought, wow, this is a great

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learning experience and I I just.

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I love learning and I thought

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I've got to make it really

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interesting right from the start.

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Otherwise they're just gonna

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lose interest and not continue.

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And Joanna, who worked in adult education.

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She she admitted it.

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I think some other teachers

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didn't enjoy teaching online.

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But for me, I just it's different.

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I miss I do miss certain things

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about being in the classroom,

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but I think it's I think

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it's working really well.

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I'm very pleased with that.

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There's so many tools available,

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you know to keep the students.

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I think online the students really do have

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to take more ownership over their studies.

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So. Teaches I did have one teacher

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who admitted to me that he did hate.

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As Joyner put it,

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he hated teaching online and

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convinced the students to go back

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into the classroom in September.

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Uhm, depending on this teacher's attitude.

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There was a difference in students

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whether they enjoyed it or not,

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whether they lost interest.

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but this was again a lot to put

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on the teachers who were put

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on online very quickly with

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no training and no support.

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Still, at this middle level.

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Teacher decisions came up as as a factor

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in influencing students motivation.

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Carrie was still teaching

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online and she said to me,

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I do take the time it's unpaid.

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I take the time to sort of have a

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separate session and help people out

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with digital skills because I think

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it's worthwhile in the long run.

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You don't want to lose anyone you

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don't want anyone falling behind. Some.

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She was aware even at the higher level,

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just because they had a high

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level of English didn't mean they

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had a high level of skills.

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If you think back to the first quote,

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if they don't have a screen at home.

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Maybe they don't have a smartphone.

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Maybe they've only got a smartphone because.

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They use it for telephone

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calls and that's it.

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These people needed a lot of support in

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order to continue accessing their class,

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and teachers like Carrie really

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went over and above in her own time.

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To try to help everybody to

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to access the class.

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Because not everyone was able

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to make that type of decision.

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just didn't have the time to do this.

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And Vanessa told me about a student of

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hers who she suspected had dyslexia.

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Which is something that's very difficult

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to assess in somebody's second language.

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There aren't really any

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assessments that work.

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She told me we have to balance

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deal with students expectations and

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whatever pressures they're under

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to move up and their motivation.

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So I moved her up as a student

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and that was fine.

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You know, I moved her up without the

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exam because she wasn't going to.

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She wasn't going to pass writing.

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And so yeah,

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a lot of it is keeping people motivated

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and encourage them to be realistic.

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So she was able to make the decision

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that even though somebody hadn't

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passed an exam at certain level.

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She could move to the next level.

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But others teachers,

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either when allowed to do that.

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All while waiting for the exams

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to be offered again,

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and so keeping people at the same level.

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And then finally a couple of

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quotes about the micro level. Uhm?

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Which is. Really bad students start

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to get some power around their own

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motivation in language learning.

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Uhm, so this first quote.

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It's about students who are learning online.

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Especially during the lockdowns

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and Vanessa Tommy, yes,

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so they're handling they're dealing

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with a lot and I really admire those,

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particularly those who've got

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children around them who are making

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a lot of noise or want attention

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because they stick with it.

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There were really high high

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Uhm, or they were isolating?

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Other teachers told me about students

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who had babies, young children

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because the nurseries are closed.

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All sorts of things happening

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in the in their home life.

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And dumb. Following on with this

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so they were doing their best to.

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Access the class.

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They're also finding ways of.

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Practicing their English when they

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And so Lucy told me and she

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worked for a charity.

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Show me about WhatsApp group so.

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She said another WhatsApp.

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I mean WhatsApp group for class.

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They're sending recipes to each other

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and you know this shop is open and

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that one is selling toilet paper and

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some are just communicating which is good.

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So her students had set up this

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WhatsApp group without her.

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She'd been communicating with them in teams,

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but they didn't seem to like that

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they wanted a WhatsApp group.

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They were sending voice notes

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to each other messages.

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Because none of them share the

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same first language.

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And at the same time practicing their

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English and helping each other.

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And this was something it wasn't just Lucy.

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They told me about this.

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There were other teachers that

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told me how WhatsApp groups really

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UM, but they will set up by the students.

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It wasn't imposed by the teachers.

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So. The implications that are coming

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out of this UM, at the macro level.

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We need uniformity across the exam boards up.

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There are a lot of issues with

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this Excel skills for LIFE exams.

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Uhm, I haven't gone into all of

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it here because it's not all.

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Don't look directly linked to

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the pandemic and there are issues

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that are separate to that, but.

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When different exam mods are

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making different decisions is

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just the lottery as to which one

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you happen to be registered with,

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because that's what your provider chills.

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A technology and study spaces need to

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be available to students. You know.

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If you've got people on phones,

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probably using their data 'cause

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they don't have Wi-Fi sitting

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in a car sitting on the stairs,

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this isn't really conducive to love.

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Ideal language learning.

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Two people told me about UM,

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laptops that their college or education

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provider had had given out to students.

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But it wasn't enough for everybody.

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But they just weren't prepared.

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Even in November, December last year.

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At the Mesa level.

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Teachers need to be aware of the

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implications of their decisions.

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Especially around exams I've

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also put here levels,

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so moving up and down levels.

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Uhm,

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there are also a lot of issues

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around enrollment because.

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Uhm, August September 2020.

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All enrollment at all these

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places was online.

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And that resulted in a lot of mistakes

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being made in placements of levels.

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And students. Need to be

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continued to be valued as adults.

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So respected as adults and

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have their their their stories,

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their histories used in class.

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And then at the micro level, UM,

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we've seen how successful WhatsApp

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groups are sees need to be encouraged

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to keep doing things like this

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supporting each other outside of class?

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Help help to find opportunities for

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practicing English in a Safeway.

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And. To try to celebrate resilience

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and resourcefulness alongside

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traditional success of exam results.

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So this is what I'm up to at the moment.

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I'm like I say I'm in the final year.

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I'm writing up, UM,

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the findings of this study on teachers

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and what they told me will be compared

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to my other other findings chapter.

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Which is it's going to be 5 case

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studies of adults or students

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who I followed through the year.

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So comparing what they told me to watch this.

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Other teachers told me.

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And I feel like hopefully, uhm,

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expanding on the implications.

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Uhm, I have. Put a few references here.

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I'm happy to share my slides with anybody,

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that's. Interested but uhm.

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Thank you so much for listening.

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And I'll be happy to take any questions, uhm?

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Thank you all very much.

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Thank you very much, Catherine,

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uh, for an excellent presentation.

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I am going to end the

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recording for the discussion.

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Thank you.