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That you've accepted your Harry

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invitation to be here and share your work.

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Because the network is very interested

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in issues around identity issues

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around representation issues around

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the politics of representation and the

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work you do on nationalism and diaspora

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studies is of course and and the role

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of social media is very sort of close

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to the interests of the number of

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the members of our network. The I'm.

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Really interested to actually see how

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you're actually talk about concepts of

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regeneration and recontextualization.

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UM, of course in the current what we're

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all experiencing in the with the war

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in the area that you are focusing on

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between Russia and there's sort of

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there's studies that you're focusing

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on between the Russia and Ukraine,

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but I'm very interested in what is happening.

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And as we're all very interested

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in what is happening in Ukraine.

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And the war that has this terrible impact,

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of course.

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Uhm, on so many levels and I would be

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very interested in how you're approaching it.

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Uh, in your study and how you're actually

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connecting linguistic unity issues

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around power issues around politics

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of identity and how you're actually

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bringing that together in in your work,

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in the sort of in the synchrony.

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But also what is kind of how you've

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actually approaching it and framing it

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and where you're going with your work

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in the future and how the work we do.

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Can contribute and can make a difference,

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so I'm very really very interested to

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actually hear more about your approach.

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Uh,

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and how you actually see relevance

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because you've also been in

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very interdisciplinary spaces,

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so I'm really interested to hear

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from your perspective where you see

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the need for researchers to pull

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together where you actually see that

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we really can contribute to making

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this world that is becoming uglier.

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Hopefully a better place.

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So very interested.

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Here kind of your work, but also your

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sort of thoughts about how networks like, uh,

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this one which are very interdisciplinary.

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One can be spaces, uh,

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that actually can bring together voices that.

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We want to kind of make louder

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and and we want to unite.

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So over to you,

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Ivan.

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Thank you very much for this

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kind introduction and thank you

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very much for the invitation.

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It's great to be here.

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And now my today's talk is based on,

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uh,

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my previous postdoctoral project

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at the University of Cambridge,

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and Don't Go and study on the identity

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and nationalism and languages and

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how they've been shaped by both the

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full scale Russian invasion and also

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I focused on the role of new medium.

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So I prepared several slides,

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let me share them with you.

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UM? Can you see them well?

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So several words about the

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theorizations which guide my research.

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Of course,

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we all know theorizations by Benedict

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Anderson on imagined community,

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and of course he stresses the role of

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prime capitalism which allowed this.

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Nations, modern nations to emerge.

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He focuses mainly on the role of newspapers.

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And, uh, he also stresses that,

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uh, this spring capitalism

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produced standard languages,

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so languages were always at

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the core of national building.

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But in our digital age,

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we also can say that this print

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capitalism is replaced by digital one.

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So new media play increasingly

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important role and also there is

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a lot of writing of how national

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belonging is articulated online

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and crystallized by online spaces.

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And, uh, through different

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linguistic behaviors as well.

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And of course Nation is narrated.

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And here writers, poets,

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and intellectuals play a key role.

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So I I call them cultural producers.

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And of course,

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the automy of civic and ethnic

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nationalism is being criticized.

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Taras Kuzio points out that every

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civic nation always has at my cultural

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core and there is always choice

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made towards official languages.

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And although it could be in the

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form of loss or through just

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informal power structures.

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And, uh, what does it mean for,

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uh, Ukrainians, and,

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uh,

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wider Eastern Slavs Steven Schulman

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provides very good explanation

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of this identity or meta identity

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options for Eastern Slavic people.

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When we speak about national one,

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it focuses on ethnic cultures,

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vernacular languages and treats,

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particularly towards the Russian one,

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as a dissimilar and competitive.

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In other words, as other.

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This identity is more of

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like postcolonial nature.

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And then there is supranational identity,

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so it treats Eastern Slavs as

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triune nation and stresses the

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importance of the Russian language.

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And of course it's presents Belarusians,

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Ukrainians and Russians as basically similar.

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And then, uh,

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this identities are usually

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articulated through what's manual

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customs calls icons of nationalism.

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So for Ukraine and then it's like

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a conservative. Uh, variation.

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The Second World War struggle.

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Independence struggle plays a

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particularly important role,

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so here is important.

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The leader of Ukrainian nationalism

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of that time, Stepan Bandera.

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But also Ukrainian insurgent army.

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Of course,

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this narrative is controversial due

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to radical nationalism and also these

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organizations had some degree of

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collaborations with Nazi Germany.

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Uh, and uh, this uh.

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Part of Ukrainian history,

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of course, is exploited by uh,

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Russia in presenting Ukraine.

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Contemporary Ukraine,

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as sort of and Nazi state.

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And then there is genocidal famine

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of Holodomor which has taken

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place in Soviet Ukraine.

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In 1932 nineteen 33 so

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these both 2 narratives.

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It's like both show the heroes and

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suffering martyrdom of Ukrainian

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nation and Ukrainian language in this.

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Of conservative narrative place the key role.

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So it's romantic vision of language

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as the heart of the nation.

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And then there are different

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supernational identities.

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One could be called Soviet to file.

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It focuses really on the Soviet Union

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and the victory in the Second World War.

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In Russia it became sort of a religion,

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as you can see.

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And of course it combines some elements

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of the pre Soviet period such as uh,

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Russian Imperial period,

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Russian Orthodoxy and of

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course Russian language.

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And you may,

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if you follow the news,

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you may spot that actually Russian

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speaking and Russian constantly

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used by Russian propaganda interchangeably.

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So basically speaking,

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Russian in a way presented as being Russian.

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So it's presented as very hard or strong.

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Identity. But for Ukraine,

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the language it's very interrelated

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for the National Liberation struggle.

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So Ukrainian was officially

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banned in the Russian Empire,

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so famously it was said that there is no

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such language never was, and now will be.

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When the Russian Empire collapsed,

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the Bolsheviks initially offered sort of the.

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The freedom of cultural production and, uh,

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it resulted in, uh, Ukrainian renaissance.

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So revival of Ukrainian

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language and very active.

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Writing and creation of poems and

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novels in the early Soviet periods,

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and then most of representatives of

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Ukrainian intelligentsia were executed.

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So this period is called

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executed Renaissance.

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And over the course of, UM, 20th century.

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Of course, Ukraine experienced the

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decline in linguistic diversity,

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so there was English,

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Polish, German, Russian,

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Ukrainian and other languages.

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But over the course due to

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Holocaust and horrible events,

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but also ethnic cleansing of polls,

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must deportations of Germans and so on.

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Basically the multilingual nature of Ukraine.

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Was a compromised and in the second half

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it was mainly about Ukrainian and Russian.

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Ukrainian wasn't the language of social

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mobility so it was in constant decline

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just before independence in 1991.

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Less than half Ukrainian schools

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were teaching in Ukrainian,

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and it's effectively was removed from

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sort of university academic sphere.

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Uh, after independence,

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the language question became like

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very useful for politicians,

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and they created this oppositional discourse.

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So one part was protecting Ukrainian

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and advocating that youth universally,

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and the other was advocating making

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Russian the second official language.

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So instead of constructive reforms,

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politicians really exploited this.

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Ukraine adopted Charter of the

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Regional and Minority Languages

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and actually there was like effort

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in 2012 to make Russian official.

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It was claimed that it could be made

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original language in the eastern

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and southern regions of Ukraine,

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and it's actually would mean that

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it would be official.

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But bilingual policy which like

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considering previous imperial status of

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Russian would be very beneficial to it.

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There were like a lot of protests against it,

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but then the revolution.

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Maybe you heard about it.

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It's called the Euromaidan Revolution

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of 2014.

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It's toppled the regime of Victoria

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Yanukovych and brought some

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significant change.

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Ukrainian researcher have.

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Latimer colleague emphasizes

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that the meaning.

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Off belonging to the nation has changed.

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It acquired more civic,

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uh forms and uh was manifested in

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greater alienation from Russia and

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greater embrace of Ukrainian nationalism.

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And he argues, this nationalism is scenic.

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Then there was allocated lots of funding

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for Ukrainian cultural production.

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So lots of films and other

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cultural products were created.

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And at the same time, uh,

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in Ukraine, uh,

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the films and songs of those in Russia

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who supported the aggression were,

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uh,

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were banned,

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so it's created more space for

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Ukrainian cultural producers then

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there was where the communization laws,

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which made quite effective break

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with the Soviet past.

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Very important law was introduced in

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2019 and I will discuss it a bit later.

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Of course, the large the full scale

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invasion of this year changes things and

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I will discuss it with several examples.

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So before going to these examples,

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I explain what methodology I use so, uh.

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It is argued that, uh,

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data triangulation increases research,

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uh, validity and reliability.

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So I combine on and offline research or

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research on both sides of the screen.

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Online element focuses on theoretical

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sample of social media groups and

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I have to say that I predominantly

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focus on Facebook platform.

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And involves of qualitative

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content analysis of these groups.

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I also apply link analysis in order to to

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see how the groups are connected online.

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And of course, it's important to,

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uh, see, uh,

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how language is used through ethnographic

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observations and it was done in during

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my previous project along with expert

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interviews with cultural producers.

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So these were writers, poets,

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film and theatrical directors

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and bloggers in Ukraine.

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It was in 2018 and now I planned

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the second round of these studies.

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And of course,

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for every ethnographic research.

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Small small talks and the detailed

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field notes, uh are very important,

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so I bring together this, uh,

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different sources of data for my research.

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And now,

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like as I put the title of orgs so

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I have to explain why this reference

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to talking comes from initially orgs

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were those like para militants who

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were participating in the anti Maidan

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Pro Russian movement in 2013 2014.

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Uh, but when Russia are next,

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uh, Crimea and UM.

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And also the war started in uh,

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in the Donbas region in Ukraine in 2014.

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This name actually transitioned and was

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given to either pro Russian militants

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or Russian soldiers in Ukraine.

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This picture and then logically Russia

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was called either Mordor or Ross,

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Mordor.

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This picture is bought by famous

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Russian painter Nikolai Kapikian,

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so you can see the central org.

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Resembles uh, someone?

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And the Euromaidan really gave momentum

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for a lots of initiatives which actually

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help people to transition into Ukrainian.

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So this group,

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you can see it has nearly 100,000

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members and this still lization of The

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Beatles picture crossing the roads.

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And I have to say that crossing the

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road and sort of switching to other

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languages the same word in Ukrainian so.

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But I heard no Ukrainian school.

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And there were like a lot of

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initiatives like this and,

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uh,

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they share different stories and

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in many ways it was presented as

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sort of one way crossing.

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So once you start speaking Ukrainian you

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don't know you don't go back, so it's like.

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Not any accommodation bilingualism as such.

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But of course, uh.

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There were the, UM,

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the discourse is about language,

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were, uh, very much about security,

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so it was presented that,

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and the some narrative was

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quite stigmatizing.

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It was presented that just because

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people in the Donbas spoke Russian,

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than Russia invaded and came to protect them.

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So it was like a bit like simplified

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narrative that when you speak Ukrainian,

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no one will come to protect you.

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Of course, it's a bit naive now and say,

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Russian. What Russia did in Syria?

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I mean like no one spoke Russian over there,

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but it's hardly helped Syrian

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people and over here this poster.

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It's actually shows like unique letters

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of Ukrainian and Russian alphabet.

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So it's he and young.

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And it shows that Ukrainian

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the switch to Ukrainian should

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help to repel the aggression.

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And of course there would

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be a lot of stigmatization.

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Uh, so.

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Those Ukrainians who who spoke Russian were

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presented as sort of not loyal to the state,

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and this particular poster

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presents a Russian speaker,

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so it likens Russian speaker to Alcoholics.

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So it's says this Ukrainian once he

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drinks alcohol, he's called alcoholic,

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but when he speaks Russian, no one.

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Like admits that he's like being Russified,

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so it's like really,

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not very pleasant stigmatization strategy,

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but there were like voices against it,

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so one famous Ukrainian writer,

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Yuri and Rohlich,

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has written an essay presenting

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Eastern Ukrainians as being like a

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flower culture and speaking Russian.

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And, uh, the activist and.

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Our cultural curator,

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Ivanna Skiba Yakubova has written

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a brilliant response to this

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essay saying the following.

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I can read it.

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It's hard to resolve the respect not

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to suspect that the the deafness

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of person who and she speaks

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about this writer while visiting

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hierarchy for several times a year.

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Still things that the Ukrainian

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language would make faces long here.

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Maybe it was like this.

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During his first visit to

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Harkov 20 years ago.

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When a young Ukrainian poet Jadan was

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meeting him at the railway station.

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It is time to leave that Soviet

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static vision in the past and to

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notice that the reality is changing

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the paramount paramount value of

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each language is that every region,

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and frankly speaking,

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in every social group we can find

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the words people can understand.

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They're all to the east,

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and she refers to eastern Ukraine is

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never easy, and the road to the West,

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and she refers to Europe.

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European integration of Ukraine neither.

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And also in this cultural production

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there were like very like great

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attempts to embrace multilingualism

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and promote Ukrainian without

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stigmatization of Russian speakers.

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So the award winning screenwriter

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Natalia verse.

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Uh, explains why in his UM, in in,

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in in her uh, movie called Cyborgs,

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which was about Ukrainian soldiers who

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were defending an airport in Donetsk,

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why the characters speak different

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languages and some speak non

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standard languages, some dialects.

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So she says the following.

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I'm afraid of extremes.

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So that's why serpina and this

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character from characters from the.

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In the movie represent those extremes

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I know and understand the truth,

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that each of them has.

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I also understand that none

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of these truths can win.

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There is nothing bad that people

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have different opinions and

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see the world differently.

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Someone can be left and someone can be right.

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If someone is cultured and then she

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understands that we should unite for

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something more important and that we

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can find a compromise. So it's like,

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really this open-ended frame which allows.

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Of promote Ukrainian,

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but at the same time allows UM,

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various linguistics forms

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to exist comfortably.

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And then this, uh, language law?

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Uh, which I have mentioned,

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uh, you can read this paper

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by me on the conversation.

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So it was like heavily criticized in Russia,

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presenting that.

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It would somehow suppress Russian speakers,

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but in this paper I actually show

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that it supports my minorities.

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It's main aim is to make a

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Ukrainian universal so a person

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speaking Ukrainian can receive

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services and support in Ukrainian

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language in every part of Ukraine.

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And, uh,

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it's also done like important

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work in recognizing languages

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of Ukrainian indigenous people

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such as Crimea and Tatars.

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Carins and cream chucks.

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So that's why like enforcing this,

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uh, I mean,

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like law would only mean the elevation

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of Ukrainian as truly official language,

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and then it would actually

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provide support for minorities.

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And then we have the invasion

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and there is a lot of content

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coming from it as we know it's the

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most documented war so far and

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language is at the heart of it.

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So during the initial stage there

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were a lot of like saboteur groups

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in different Ukrainian cities.

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And.

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I mean like it's hard to say fun

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and in this context there was like

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a short Ukrainian language tests

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in order to identify Russians who

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came to Ukraine with specific AIDS.

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And one of these tests actually really short.

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One is to say the words.

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Which is apparently very hard for

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Russian speaker to pronounce and

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social media are full of this of these tests.

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And yeah,

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Internet meme is made from this movie.

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You probably watched the arrival.

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So once again,

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a language is the matter of, uh,

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security and over here it it was

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used very in very instrumental way.

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And, uh, before the full scale invasion,

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there are of course in public

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space there would be,

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or voices heard advocating for uh,

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for the existence of Russian language.

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So some would say that it's

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actually a function.

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It's good that people know

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such a big language,

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and it's also an important

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gateway to Russian culture,

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which many people associate

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Russia in the West.

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So of course it's related to Tolstoy.

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Industry Husky saw,

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joked jokingly called Tolstaya Esky.

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So in a way it justifies

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this Russian ambition,

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ambitions geopolitical ambitions.

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Just because there is this layer of.

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Of uh, uh Russian culture,

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but with the invasion,

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it's actually relaunched this

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debate about the the future of.

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Or Russian culture.

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And on the left you can see the

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monument to the Russian, uh,

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national poet Alexander Pushkin and.

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After, uh,

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the crimes in Butcher were revealed.

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There was like a really big

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movement in Ukraine in removing

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not only removing the monuments

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of writers and poets of Russia

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and Pushkin wasn't an exception.

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And then a lot of in public discourses,

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there is a big emergence of big debates

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about the heritage of this cultural heritage.

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And there are lots of essays

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which actually trying to connect.

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So you have ski say or Pushkin

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to the ongoing events. Of course,

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then not all of them are convincing,

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so there's like initial claim that

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this like chauvinism and aggressive

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attitude towards Ukrainian.

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That's actually imprinted in

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those famous texts.

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So you can see the example

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of such essay on your left.

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And, of course,

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uh from time to time there are

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this like reemerging UM.

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Memes and events which spark public debates?

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So when Russia has taken a Mariupol,

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the road signs in Ukrainian and English were

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quickly replaced with the Russian ones,

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and then you can see this caricature

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on the right.

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It's shows that this workers actually.

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Tolstoy and Pushkin presented

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as this workers,

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which actually symbolically have

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to remove Ukrainian from Ukraine.

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So in a way they are serving

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the Russian aggression.

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And as eastern Ukrainian cities been bombed,

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uh, most of the refugees in Europe

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and internal internally displaced

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persons from eastern Ukraine.

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And their arrival to western

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Ukraine and also abroad sparks,

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uh, different uh, debates.

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So, uh, first about refugees,

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uh, this, uh post which asks,

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uh, is there,

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uh,

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a Russian speaking school for

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Ukrainian for Ukrainian children in

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Krakow it was reposted for thousands

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of times and really criticized,

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especially by those who would be

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justifying of saying that the

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Russian aggression is caused by

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the fact that people spoke Russian

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in eastern Ukraine so.

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This lady, yeah,

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was ridiculed about this this question.

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So many people would be saying that after

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having this horrible experience with Russia,

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people logically should distance

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themselves from the Russian language,

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the orc language or from the language

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of the aggressor, not otherwise.

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And then, uh, there is a Blogger.

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Uh, displays Blogger and

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educator from Harkov who now,

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uh, forced to live abroad.

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He says the following in his

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recent Facebook Post I can see new

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debates about language on Facebook.

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I have solved this problem

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for myself long time ago.

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I do not use Russian in public.

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I now live abroad and do not

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want to be identified as Russian.

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So however,

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at one of the schools where I taught,

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Russian was a contract requirement.

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So so he still was teaching Russian.

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And then he said that the boy from

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that school has recently switched

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to Ukrainian and when I asked

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him why he has decided to do so,

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he replied just because we have the war.

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So it's once again the war presented

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as the main driver that Ukrainians

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have stopped to use Russian and just

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two days ago there is like widely

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discussed and circulated video of a

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volunteer distributors and humanitarian.

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AIDS in western Ukraine.

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And there there are, like several ladies,

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apparently from eastern Ukraine

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speaking to him in Russian.

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And he's replying that I'm not

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obliged to understand this language.

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And they're like really,

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like a lot of.

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Discussions around it and these

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ladies are heavily criticized,

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so these dramatic events really

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radicalized the discourses about language.

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Of course, it's quite quite

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early to draw some conclusions,

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but from data what I which I have,

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this could be the following.

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So there is like really dynamic and change

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in role of languages in the Ukrainian

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national building project and the war.

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It's initial stage in 2014

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really reinforced Ukrainian,

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but of course it's.

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Generally,

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the use of Russian in the private

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sphere is not stigmatized,

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and it's it's really still widely used,

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although it's possible to observe that

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there is like this big drive for people

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switching to Ukrainian completely.

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And of course, UM.

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For this like oppositional discourse,

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it was initially important that

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it was exploited by politicians.

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But also we should not rule out the

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emergence of Russia as new imperial power.

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So these discourses of protecting

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Russian speakers.

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They really polarize societies,

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not only not only Ukrainian society,

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but of course similar processes

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could be observed in Kazakhstan.

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In Baltic states such as Latvia and.

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Tonia.

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And then, uh, with the war, uh,

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language becomes like an integral,

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an integral part of secular

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securitization discourse.

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So it's not just that the matter

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of personal choice or not,

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just natural means of communication.

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It is presented as much as

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very much about security.

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And there is lots of studies

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which were before the.

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Before the invasion they showed this,

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like distancing from russianness.

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But what will will be the future?

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It's hard to tell Ukraine is

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fighting for its survival,

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but not only that, it fights for its,

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uh, democratic and European future.

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And of course,

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any democracy is based on the recognition

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and preservation of their diversity.

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So Ukraine should not only

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repel the attacker,

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but also avoid to becoming something like it.

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So I think this citation.

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From Craig Calhoun, is, uh,

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explaining the goal of Ukraine.

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It is, uh,

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the very nature of democracy,

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that it should exist in plural forms

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created by different people as they

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struggle with different circumstances,

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which are obviously very

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dramatic for Ukraine.

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Now nations reflect

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communities not merely of fate,

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but of mutual and collective responsibility.

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So this is it.

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Thank you very much for your attention.

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Thank you very much, Evan UMI will end

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the recording now for the discussion.
